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View Poll Results: Which city downtown would you choose to live?
Manhattan 23 22.55%
San Francisco 16 15.69%
San Jose 2 1.96%
Portland 4 3.92%
Chicago 13 12.75%
Miami 9 8.82%
Different city downtown 31 30.39%
Where ever Gaz lives. 4 3.92%
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:55 AM  
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If money were no object, which major USA downtown would you pick to live?

During the past three months, I've traveled to Manhattan, San Francisco, San Jose, Portland, Chicago, and Miami for biz/personal trips.

I've stayed in mid-priced hotels. (Actually, non were cheap as in staying at a Best Western in the 'burbs. )

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Manhatten: Used to love to go here. Now I find it crowded, dirty, and people are rude on the streets, but normal once inside. Least value per sq ft of hotel space of all the cities.
San Fran: Love the Wharf. Expensive, a homeless problem, past its prime?
Portland: Beautiful, had to fight off the homeless on every block as I walked. No sun the entire trip.
San Jose: Energy! Wonderful weather, expensive as hell. Traffic sucked.
Chicago: More I go, the more I fall in love. Clean, not crowded, people are friendly. Saw two panhandlers the entire weekend. Good hotel value.
Miami: Great food, the babes on South Beach were amazing eye candy. It would be too hot in summer. Condos expensive.

So if I had to move from middle of no-where Wisconsin where there are more cows that cars, I would pick downtown Chicago and try to find a condo overseeing a river or Lake Michigan.

What about you?
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:48 PM   #166
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San Diego's BBQ sucks but other than that why do you think the food there is horrific?
Have you had a decent pizza there? I have not and tried the local stuff more than once.

A Steak?

Other than sea food, I haven't really had a meal in the San Diego/Aneheim/Long Beach area that was up to par or my expectations for price.

I used to spend quite a bit of time in the area on business.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:53 PM   #167
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Have you had a decent pizza there? I have not and tried the local stuff more than once.

Other than sea food, I haven't really had a meal in the San Diego/Aneheim/Long Beach area that was up to par or my expectations for price.

I used to spend quite a bit of time in the area on business.
What do you consider "local stuff"? There's not really a SD style of pizza, so you'll find it all, of varying quality. I've enjoyed Pizza Port, Urbn, Lefty's, Bronx, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting. Nothing I'd say that blew my mind, but good pizza.

The Mexican food here is amazing (tons of amazing hole-in-the-wall places), as is the Thai, and fresh local seafood. There are some fantastic Americana places in Hillcrest, as well as some great breakfast spots.

I wouldn't consider SD a food destination, other than Mexican food, but on the whole, I've found the food options to be varied and tasty. No complaints.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:53 PM   #168
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:59 PM   #169
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As an aside, I got bold and took the subway and bus to Laguardia the last time I was in New York. The subway goes from Manhattan to some random neighborhood in Queens, and then you find a bus to get to the airport.

Wowza. I got off that bus in Queens and it felt like I was in a different country. I don't know how to describe it properly, but I was on this street that was in perpetual shade because the subway was elevated over it, and it was full of tiny little storefronts that looked like something you'd see in a developing country, and I was not hearing much English in the conversations around me. It really had a bizarre feel to it.

One of the learning experiences of traveling around is that I realize how much of a Eurocentric bubble I live in in Denver. I realize that I'm supposed to like other cultures, but my shameful truth is that I like living in a place that is familiar to me in terms of experience and appearance. I like traveling to developing countries, but I don't want to live in one.


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Have you had a decent pizza there? I have not and tried the local stuff more than once.

A Steak?

Other than sea food, I haven't really had a meal in the San Diego/Aneheim/Long Beach area that was up to par or my expectations for price.

I used to spend quite a bit of time in the area on business.

The hell you trying to eat a steak and pizza in San Diego for? If you're in San Diego you eat burritos. Nothing but the endless variety of burritos and they're the best anywhere north of the border.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:08 PM   #170
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What do you consider "local stuff"? There's not really a SD style of pizza, so you'll find it all, of varying quality. I've enjoyed Pizza Port, Urbn, Lefty's, Bronx, and probably a couple others I'm forgetting. Nothing I'd say that blew my mind, but good pizza.

The Mexican food here is amazing (tons of amazing hole-in-the-wall places), as is the Thai, and fresh local seafood. There are some fantastic Americana places in Hillcrest, as well as some great breakfast spots.

I wouldn't consider SD a food destination, other than Mexican food, but on the whole, I've found the food options to be varied and tasty. No complaints.
Ok, I understand. You are a local and know where to eat and that makes sense.

Just guessing, but I have probably had close to at least a couple hundred meals in the area.

To be honest, I am talking Anaheim where I spent at least five days every year all the way down to the Torrey Pines golf course area.

I have played a lot of golf courses down there and of course the meals would have been in that proximity but I will be darned if I could name a single one of the places I have eaten at.

Qualcomm was a really big customer in the area at one time so I would spend several nights a year near their facility.

The Mrs. spent a week down there once with me and she felt the same way I did about the food when judging it against similar size cities.

Don't get me wrong, it has some the best weather on the planet and we have had some great times there.

San Francisco is the home of my favorite restaurant in the country, Tadich Grill.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:13 PM   #171
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The hell you trying to eat a steak and pizza in San Diego for? If you're in San Diego you eat burritos. Nothing but the endless variety of burritos and they're the best anywhere north of the border.
LOL, I can only eat that stuff a couple times a month and when you are spending several days a row in the area menu variety is nice.
Now my Mrs. loves the Mexican food and would make a steady diet of the stuff.

Have you ever tried to pick a healthy meal off a Mexican restaurant menu? Carbs, fat and mega calories.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:24 PM   #172
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If money was no object I would spend half my year in the Grand Tetons, then winter in San Diego

I was just up there a couple days ago around Jackson Hole.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:25 PM   #173
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:33 PM   #174
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The hell you trying to eat a steak and pizza in San Diego for? If you're in San Diego you eat burritos. Nothing but the endless variety of burritos and they're the best anywhere north of the border.
My first few weeks in SD, I think I had a burrito a day. Probably put on 10lbs, lol, but so worth it. I take every visitor to get a Cali burrito from my favorite place, and it never fails to impress.
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Ok, I understand. You are a local and know where to eat and that makes sense.

Just guessing, but I have probably had close to at least a couple hundred meals in the area.

To be honest, I am talking Anaheim where I spent at least five days every year all the way down to the Torrey Pines golf course area.

I have played a lot of golf courses down there and of course the meals would have been in that proximity but I will be darned if I could name a single one of the places I have eaten at.

Qualcomm was a really big customer in the area at one time so I would spend several nights a year near their facility.

The Mrs. spent a week down there once with me and she felt the same way I did about the food when judging it against similar size cities.

Don't get me wrong, it has some the best weather on the planet and we have had some great times there.

San Francisco is the home of my favorite restaurant in the country, Tadich Grill.
I don't spend a ton of time in OC, but it seems a little stale in my very limited experience. I live down around Balboa Park, where it's almost entirely one-off places to eat (few chains), and about every cuisine you could want. A short distance to downtown, too. So, my experience would definitely be dramatically different than yours.

That said, I've heard the burger at Torrey is amazing.
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Somewhere along the Oregon coast near Cannon City beach area. In the country far enough away from the horrible infestation known as Portland. Nothing but mountains and the coast with some nice beaches in between. Oh and Tillamook ice cream factory.


Maybe even Victoria Is. BC
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:37 PM   #177
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LOL, I can only eat that stuff a couple times a month and when you are spending several days a row in the area menu variety is nice.
Now my Mrs. loves the Mexican food and would make a steady diet of the stuff.

Have you ever tried to pick a healthy meal off a Mexican restaurant menu? Carbs, fat and mega calories.
I never thought I'd tire of Mexican food but eventually I did OD on it. Got just plain tired of it. Still like it but don't overdo it to the point I can no longer appreciate it. I prefer menu variety in life and in travel.
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It was really hard for me to adjust to non-city life—even if just the burbs. Too quiet. Have to drive everywhere to get stuff. Too many chain restaurants. I miss cosmopolitan life from time to time still. So I would love a condo in a city and keep my home here.
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:42 PM   #179
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LOL, I can only eat that stuff a couple times a month and when you are spending several days a row in the area menu variety is nice.
Now my Mrs. loves the Mexican food and would make a steady diet of the stuff.

Have you ever tried to pick a healthy meal off a Mexican restaurant menu? Carbs, fat and mega calories.
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I would never live in Canada. I rather love Quebec City though. It's like being in Europe. Wouldn't live there tho'.
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