Our (not so good) cap situation for 2017

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Alright, so it's another long Sunday without football, and while I don't want to look past this year too much, have any of you noticed our current amount of cap space for next offseason?

According to Over The Cap, we are sitting with a shade under 6 million in available space for 2017. I'm not sure it's 100% accurate, but it's gotta be close.

This is without Eric Berry or Dontari Poe under contract, too. Now, we know it's an issue Dorsey has to address and he has shown in the past that he will, but how? What would you do? Here's the link to tinker with all of the different options of moves that can be made. http://overthecap.com/calculator/kansas-city-chiefs/

Personally, I think move number one is to get that Fisher cap number down with an extension. A lot of the other moves are going to depend on how certain guys fare this season, but one that stands out is Mauga's cap number. It'd be really nice to see March or Wilson take his job and make him expendable next offseason. Also, you have the Jamaal dilemma, who would instantly free up 7 million, or Colquitt who frees up over 4 million... hell, Tyler Bray even approaches 2 million.

What do you think Dorsey does to save the world this time? Discuss

[pugsnotdrugs19]

To respond to RunKC's projected depth chart, seems very close to what I would expect.

Only differences I see is probably at LG where I am not sure Ehinger will be ready to play or not, so I would guess Jah Reid right now. But, if they want Reid to be the swing tackle that will probably not happen.

I also expect us to use Gaines outside in our base defense and kick him inside in the nickel package, where the best man between Russell, Murray, White and Nelson will win the outside job.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Nothing says superbowl more than centers and TEs.

It's all about the shell game.

If you can keep drafting average to above average interior lineman it keeps you from having to burn $10-$15 million in cap space on them.

That's cap space that can then be used to pay for higher impact players.

Look at this way - the Raiders had a cap hit of $13 million for Hudson last year and $13 million for Osemele this year; that's $26 million for a couple of very good interior lineman. Those guys will likely be better than what we'll get out of Morse and LDT, but they won't be $24 million better. So are Morse and LDT championship makers? Well no, but they free up the salary that allows you to re-sign Houston. Or go after Maclin AND Schwartz in FA.

Dorsey's ability to backfill areas on the roster with existing, cheaper talent allows him to supplement that talent outside of the organization. It allows him to keep the window open.

So even if he's not hitting homeruns in the first rounds, if he continues hitting singles and doubles in the later rounds, he'll manufacture the runs he needs. Honestly, it's a hell of a lot more sustainable approach than moving forward on the assumption that you'll keep getting pro bowler's in the first round.

I think in the end it circles back to this idea that way too many people have on this board that all first rounders are studs and that all second rounders should be immediate starters, 3rd rounders eventual starters, 4th rounders key contributors, etc, etc...; the large numbers are obvious - the draft doesn't work that way. There's not a team in the league constantly nailing its first rounders or filling its roster with premier talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Dorsey's draft returns have been well above average and I don't see any reason to believe that would change.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Hali will retire a Chief.

It is written.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Do you realize that if the Chiefs cut Hali, they take a $7.3 million dollar cap charge?

And while Hali may be slowing a bit, he was a Pro Bowler last year and had more sacks, in two less games, than 2014.

Besides that, he's a mentor and a great lockerroom leader.

The Chiefs would be foolish to cut him and take that cap charge when he's able to help the team.

This. Forget the cut Hali nonsense already.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Probably DJ too.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

This. Forget the cut Hali nonsense already.

Yeah he's likely here for at least the first 2 years of the contract. It's structured in a way that it's tough to cut him before that. I believe his 2017 salary is fully guaranteed. If they considered him to be a source to create cap space in 2017, they wouldn't have done that.

[jspchief]

Would love to see Wilson or one of the other LBers beat out Mauga this year. Mauga is a jag in this defense and I'm not sure he's worth his contract.

[staylor26]

I think March takes Mauga's job.

Dorsey rarely talks up guys like he does March. Especially considering he hasn't even played a down in he regular season. Reminds me of how he talked about Kelce going into year two.

[mcaj22]

happy trails Charles, Colquitt and Mauga.

problem solved. that was easy.

[Valiant]

If we are 6mil under right now we are fine.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I just want camp to get here so we can see who is going to win some jobs.

2 guard positions
2 WR positions
DL rotation
ILB next to DJ
2 corner positions

But the thing is they aren't 'holes'. Just jobs on a good football team that have competition. I can't wait for preseason, yeah, I said it.

semantics ... if the players aren't good enough at any of those positions you listed then they become holes. If the players aren't good enough YET at any of those positions it becomes a hole.

You can blow sunshine out your ass all you want, until we see the players listed on paper actually DO the job, it means nothing.

fyi Camp doesn't mean shit either, until we see the players succeed against other teams we won't know what we have.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

happy trails Charles, Colquitt and Mauga.

problem solved. that was easy.

I don't think so. You keep that ****er until his leg literally falls off.