Science Human settlement in America just got pushed back 1,500 years.

**Rain Man** · 05-14-2016, 10:09 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/14/us/flo...ica/index.html

Mastodon bones offer clues of earliest humans in North America

By Faith Karimi, CNN
Updated 9:10 AM ET, Sat May 14, 2016

(CNN)It's a discovery that could rewrite the story of southeastern United States.

Stone tools and mastodon bones found at the bottom of a Florida river point to humans living in the region 14,550 years ago. That's more than 1,500 years earlier than previously believed, scientists say.

"This is a big deal," said Jessi Halligan, one of the study's authors and an assistant professor of anthropology at Florida State University.

"It's pretty exciting. We thought we knew the answers to how and when we got here, but now the story is changing."

The discovery on the Aucilla River was reported Friday by the journal Science Advances.

Butchered bones, knives

The four-year study included sending divers to the Page-Ladson site, a deep hole 30 feet underwater in the Aucilla River, researchers said.

There, divers excavated artifacts such as butchered bones of extinct animals, a mastodon tusk and a biface, which is a knife fragment with sharp edges.

Divers excavated bones and tools from the Page-Ladson, which is 30 feet underwater in the Aucilla River

"At Page-Ladson, hunter-gatherers, possibly accompanied by dogs, butchered or scavenged a mastodon carcass at the sinkhole's edge next to a small pond at ~14,550," the authors said in Science Advances.

What was once a pond was buried beneath the murky waters for a series of reasons, including centuries of civilization, rising sea levels and layers of sediment.

"These people had successfully adapted to their environment; they knew where to find freshwater, game, plants, raw materials for making tools, and other critical resources for survival."

The scientists used radiocarbon dating techniques to find out how old the artifacts are.

What about the Clovis?

Until that point, researchers had believed the Clovis people were among the first inhabitants of the Americas about 13,000 years ago, according to the study. Page-Ladson is the first pre-Clovis site documented in the southeastern part of North America, it said.

"The new discoveries at Page-Ladson show that people were living in the Gulf Coast area much earlier than believed," said Michael R. Waters, director of Texas A&M's center for the study of the first Americans. Waters was one of the study's lead authors.

In the 1980s, other researchers had retrieved several stone tools and a mastodon tusk from the site, but their discovery did not make much news.
Halligan and her colleagues returned to the site in 2012 and expanded on the previous research and archaeological finds. In one of the instances, a mastodon tusk recovered earlier had deep grooves. They concluded the grooves were made by humans during the tusk's extraction.

Rasputin · 05-14-2016, 10:43 PM

Aliens

tmw4h5 · 05-14-2016, 10:53 PM

The Earth is only 6,000 years old. Idiots.

**Gonzo** · 05-15-2016, 03:11 AM

"Shortly after uncovering the human bones in Florida, scientists also found the very first mullet, a pair of cutoff jeans, two ounces of weed and a how to guide on nailing your sister painted in drawings on a rock."

GloucesterChief · 05-15-2016, 09:07 AM

Pretty cool. Archaeological linguists believe there were three distinct migrations into the Americas from Asia based on surviving indigenous languages. Nothing says that there couldn't be more particularly from the beginning of the last Ice Age, perhaps coming over in simple boat or raft before the land bridge was completely uncovered by water being held on land in ice. These people could of either been wiped out due to the worsening ice age or were simply absorbed by the greater numbers coming over the land bridge.

Simply Red · 05-15-2016, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmw4h5

The Earth is only 6,000 years old. Idiots.

link?

tmw4h5 · 05-15-2016, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red

link?

Bible.

Zebedee DuBois · 05-15-2016, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmw4h5

Bible.

He asked for a link. Like this:
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/

Eleazar · 05-15-2016, 10:19 AM

I thought this thread was gonna be about the election.

**loochy** · 05-15-2016, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmw4h5

Bible.

Please link where it says that.

ThaVirus · 05-15-2016, 03:46 PM

By "human" they mean homo sapien sapien or what?

**TribalElder** · 05-15-2016, 03:47 PM

Gronk probably shot that guy

**Rain Man** · 05-15-2016, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

By "human" they mean homo sapien sapien or what?

I think they (we) were the only ones left by that date, other than maybe the hobbit people in Indonesia.

GloucesterChief · 05-15-2016, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think they (we) were the only ones left by that date, other than maybe the hobbit people in Indonesia.

No. Homo Neanderthalis and Homo Denisovan were still around. They both interbred with Homo Sapien Sapien (and each other). Creating the Caucasian and East Asian types of Homo Sapien Sapien respectively.

**jjchieffan** · 05-15-2016, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy

Please link where it says that.

http://timeline.biblehistory.com/per...rst-generation

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