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Old 05-29-2016, 07:37 AM  
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Planting trees

So let's hear about the trees you have planted. Shade? Fruit bearing? Decorative?

How are they doing?

My wife says I have an obsession with them and probably do.

Now that we are in our last home here at the lake, I am having fun with it. Here is my list.

14 Colorado Blue Spruce
1 Loblolly pine
2 plum
2 peach
1 pear
1 cherry
1 Brown turkey fig
1 Chicago fig

What you got?
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Old 05-29-2016, 06:40 PM   #46
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I have never heard that. What kind of paint?

Oh and after the Royals game I went out and removed all the fruit, kind of a difficult thing to do but I have taken your word for and was wondering anyway. The peach trees were loaded and the pear tree had the prettiest little pears you have ever seen.


You are thinking well into the future with the oak trees, good for you!

Wife thinks I am crazy wanting to get some horse shit from the neighbors. I had a similar experience ordering from one of the magazine nurseries. When we found out when they were going to ship, we tried to cancel but that is impossible.
Any old white latex based paint works fine.

We did it in Montana on our Canadian red cherry trees. Deer never touched them. I do it on all fruit trees here to avoid sunburn.

You could just place a white plastic wrap around the trunk too.

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Old 05-29-2016, 07:22 PM   #47
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Two beautiful looking properties Ed and Lew. The stark differences between the desert and the lush greenery of Southern Mo. It's a wonder anything grows in the rock and clay of Ozarks and Sandy soil of Airidzona.

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Old 05-29-2016, 07:33 PM   #48
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Any old white latex based paint works fine.

We did it in Montana on our Canadian red cherry trees. Deer never touched them. I do it on all fruit trees here to avoid sunburn.

You could just place a white plastic wrap around the trunk too.
So that's why they do that. Working out West I'd seen this was always curious what it was for.

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Oh and I hate lilac bushes always got the piss stung out of me trying to feed a surveyors chain through a fence line full of lilac.

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Old 05-29-2016, 07:43 PM   #50
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Alright, here I go. We had nothing in this back yard but grass and a pool when we moved in. Not one plant.

Hedgehog Cactus. Blooms once a year for about 7-14 days.


Fishhook barrel cactus. Blooms once a year for 3-4 weeks. Got this cactus from a construction site in the desert where it had to be re-moved. I was given it in a cardboard box. Forgot about it for a week in the heat of the summer. Planted it anyway even though I thought it might have died. It's thriving.


Hemi Ed, here's the lime tree. It's 4-5 years old I think. Was planted 1.5 years ago. During the first year, I took most fruit off so the tree didn't have the stress and instead focused on growing/expanding. I have eaten about a dozen limes off this tree since we got it. This year, as you can see, I am letting more set on the tree.



Very small dwarf Meyer Lemon tree next to Agave. Bought at Home Depot for $28. Supposed to get max 8-10' tall but produce prolific lemons all year once more mature with a fairly large canopy.



Golden barrel cactus along with a firestick in the back. The firestick is a succulent that actually turns more red/orange once temperatures drop in the winter here. Adds some nice landscape color when other things aren't blooming.



Corner pool section. Red/Pink Hibiscus, about 5' tall. Pygmy palms with a Mediterranean palm in the middle. Small Sago palm in front of that. Two purple lantan flowers for spreading ground cover.





Variegated Agave. This plant was so small. It grew massive within the past 1.5 years.



Green Cloud Sage. Likes to blooms frequently, more frequently during Monsoon season with the increased humidity.

The yellow striped agave is beautiful, a living work of art
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I was thinking the same thing
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Alright, here I go. We had nothing in this back yard but grass and a pool when we moved in. Not one plant.

Hedgehog Cactus. Blooms once a year for about 7-14 days.


Fishhook barrel cactus. Blooms once a year for 3-4 weeks. Got this cactus from a construction site in the desert where it had to be re-moved. I was given it in a cardboard box. Forgot about it for a week in the heat of the summer. Planted it anyway even though I thought it might have died. It's thriving.


Hemi Ed, here's the lime tree. It's 4-5 years old I think. Was planted 1.5 years ago. During the first year, I took most fruit off so the tree didn't have the stress and instead focused on growing/expanding. I have eaten about a dozen limes off this tree since we got it. This year, as you can see, I am letting more set on the tree.



Very small dwarf Meyer Lemon tree next to Agave. Bought at Home Depot for $28. Supposed to get max 8-10' tall but produce prolific lemons all year once more mature with a fairly large canopy.



Golden barrel cactus along with a firestick in the back. The firestick is a succulent that actually turns more red/orange once temperatures drop in the winter here. Adds some nice landscape color when other things aren't blooming.



Corner pool section. Red/Pink Hibiscus, about 5' tall. Pygmy palms with a Mediterranean palm in the middle. Small Sago palm in front of that. Two purple lantan flowers for spreading ground cover.





Variegated Agave. This plant was so small. It grew massive within the past 1.5 years.



Green Cloud Sage. Likes to blooms frequently, more frequently during Monsoon season with the increased humidity.

Lewdog we have a Planeteer that could paint some bad ass murals of sports figures on the wall.
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Lew's place is truly a show stopper for sure. Beautiful!

We live in stone county and it is aptly named.

I learned that the tap roots of the trees run along the surface due to the rocks and if you run over them with heavy equipment it can destroy the trees. When I transplanted the maple after it had been planted for three years, sure enough the tap root was about 8 feet long running across the surface so I just dug a similar ditch and placed it in it. It has done well, weird.
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Yes sir, I made the mistake of trying to be peacemaker in a feud. Had wonderful neighbors everywhere we have lived.

This old bastard retired in 97, but is no longer relevant down here, things have changed.

Dad warned me to stay out of it, but it was too late.

The worst part, we are on a shared well together.

I had marked 32 cedar trees with a red x to be removed, all on my property. Some were on my side of the neighbors dam from an old farm pond.

He had his lawyer write me a letter that the extension service said the dam would deteriorate when the roots rotted once cut down. I would be liable for the dam and damage.

My lawyer said I am in the right, but it will cost me about $10,000 for the due process.

I have tried and tried to get along with this old asshole, but finally threw him off my property.
I am sure those old Cedars have rooted out seeking water towards the pond but I seriously doubt that is what is holding that soil Dam in place. As long its got grass thats doing more than those roots. Id call the local Soil Conservation District there and get there advice its free. Also before I commenced cutting I would be sure of the line. Have a surveyor determine and mark the line every 50 feet. Sadly Missouri Statutes make it now where a complete boundary survey must be performed and not just a property line surveyed. There is a reason Dams and levees have the trees removed from them and they are cleaned and grubbed all the time. Buffalo or Brome grass is normally used to stabilize the soil on dams in this area.
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I am sure those old Cedars have rooted out seeking water towards the pond but I seriously doubt that is what is holding that soil Dam in place. As long its got grass thats doing more than those roots. Id call the local Soil Conservation District there and get there advice its free. Also before I commenced cutting I would be sure of the line. Have a surveyor determine and mark the line every 50 feet. Sadly Missouri Statutes make it now where a complete boundary survey must be performed and not just a property line surveyed. There is a reason Dams and levees have the trees removed from them and they are cleaned and grubbed all the time. Buffalo or Brome grass is normally used to stabilize the soil on dams in this area.
That is all good information, thanks. I had the man from the extension service come out and look at it, and he said he stuck by his opinion. He ended up taking pictures, as he knew he may be called to a court some day.

He was a very nice man, seemed knowledgeable and I learned a few other things from him.

I agree on the survey, even though there are metal stakes in the ground. I plan on doing it this fall as I don't want to mess with any of it now since it is all so grown over again.

My lawyer said if I were to remove a tree that isn't mine, it could get real expensive. Now this same old man cut his neighbors trees down across the street from him and told them he thought it looked better. He also removed the trees on his side of the pond as the old satellite property pictures shows them being there.

The real issue is that he just wants to stop me from doing what I want to do. Even his wife said "you always want things your way." Crazy me, wanting my property the way I want it!

This old fart is well connected in the Shriner and Church circles, so I am not sure how much of that I am running into. The first lawyer I talked to had a conflict, and told me so.


Thanks for the help!
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The place where our subdivision was built used to be citrus fields. In certain spots the soil is sandy. In other spots, it more clay like. It makes watering a tricky scenario. Where the lime tree is planted is clay. I take rebar and jam it a few feet into the ground around the tree so that water, nutrients and oxygen can penetrate down to the 2-3 depth needed for strong roots. I just added some gypsum to the soil to help loosen it and hope it helps.





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Love those cacti. I think those are beautiful.

That variegated agave Americana (yellow striped) does some unique things. It's my favorite plant and I love it's looks. It produces off shoots constantly throughout the year. I can cut these out of the ground, dry for 4-7 days and replant or pot and start a whole new plant. I've potted one that is doing ok and have plans to take another off shoot and plant it in the front yard. I dried one out and sent it to our friends in Washington state who potted it for their house. They do well potted indoors, in well lit window areas. If potted they can be outside all summer and just moved in doors when temps in winter go below freezing.

They are also called century plants. In the wild, they are rumored to bloom every century and then die. With our landscaping and watering, they will bloom within 10-20 years sending off a 20+ foot high stalk and flower. After which, the entire plant dies.


If anyone is interested, I'd gladly send you one if you'd like to grow one.

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Lewdog we have a Planeteer that could paint some bad ass murals of sports figures on the wall.
I know, I've thought about it!

We want to paint the wall or stucco it. Problem was my neighbor's sprinkler has been leaking through and staining the wall in the 2 years we've owned the house. I wasn't going to spend all that money to do the wall and have it crack/peel. He has assured me he's fixed it, after I talked with him multiple times, but I want to wait to see if it lasts all summer. Other option is planting a few more taller plants that can essentially hide the wall's appearance.
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