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Old 05-22-2012, 01:41 PM  
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WVU should win the big 12...

They have 3 of the top 10 players in the league.

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As part of “College Football Live’s” 100 Days Till Kickoff countdown, here’s a look at the top 10 players in the Big 12.

Note: This is a separate list from our preseason top 25 players. We'll tackle that later. It might be a lot different. It might be much of the same.

1. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia: Geno's a newcomer to the Big 12, but putting up big numbers is nothing new for the senior, who threw for 4,385 yards last season. Only one quarterback threw for more, but Smith had two more touchdown passes and eight fewer interceptions than the No. 2 quarterback on this list. Smith also completed nearly 3 percent more of his passes.

2. Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma: Jones checks in at No. 2 as the Big 12's leading returning passer, and will try to climb back in 2012 to give the Sooners another Big 12 title. Jones is the Big 12's most experienced quarterback, which should pay off the fall.

3. Collin Klein, QB, Kansas State: Klein was the league's No. 4 rusher and threw for 1,900 yards? You can't argue with that production, and Klein accounted for 69.8 percent of the Wildcats' offense. That's insane. His importance to K-State can't be understated.

4. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia: Austin's the most dangerous playmaker in the Big 12, a true triple threat as a receiver, runner and kick/punt returner. He's the Big 12's No. 2 returning receiver, but he also returned two kicks for touchdowns in 2011, joining two other Big 12 returners who duplicated that feat last season.

5. Jake Knott, LB, Iowa State: Knott was outplayed by teammate A.J. Klein last season, but not by much. Knott was also playing through injuries. He's a superior talent, and like Klein, there's no arguing with his production. He's made 244 tackles in the past two seasons.

6. Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma State: Randle is the Big 12's leading returning rusher and should see an increased workload from his 208 carries last season. He turned those into 24 touchdowns to come three short of the Big 12 record.

7. Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State: Brown's one of the league's most impressive freak athletes, a cruise missile of a linebacker who doesn't miss tackles in the open field and gets there faster than any true linebacker in the league. (You nickelbacks don't count.)

8. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas: Vaccaro's the most versatile talent on a loaded Texas defense, and as a roaming nickelback, offenses must account for where he is on every snap. He's also got a case as the hardest hitter in the Big 12.

9. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas: Who has two last names and is the Big 12's returning sack leader? This guy. His 8.5 sacks were 1.5 more than any other returner in the Big 12, and he made four more tackles for loss (17) than any other returner, too.

10. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia: Bailey's a more traditional receiver in WVU's offense and he's taken advantage. He's the league's leading returning receiver and offers the Mountaineers a steady, dangerous target with sure hands who will help make WVU arguably the league's most dangerous offense.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:55 PM   #91
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West Virginia's schedule is interesting:

Marshall home
James Madison in DC (they'll slaughter my alma mater...)
Maryland at home
Baylor at home
at Texas
at Texas Tech
K-State at home

Then an open date. I don't see a loss yet. Maybe Texas. I'd give the edge over Kansas State simply because it's a home game, and the travel issues work both ways I think.

TCU at home - that should be interesting
at Oklahoma State
Oklahoma at home - obviously a big game
at Iowa State
Kansas at home

I think all together 4 losses with that schedule would be a bad, bad year. I think Baylor and Oklahoma State will both be down significantly. Texas, K-State, TCU and Oklahoma strike me as the biggest threats, and 3 of those games are in Morganhole.

Speaking of TCU, they have a fun November/December schedule. WVU on the road, K-State at home, an open date, then Texas on the road and then close out the year with Oklahoma at home.

I'm thinking it's going to be between K-State, WVU, Oklahoma and TCU. I don't buy Texas at this point.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:29 PM   #92
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:04 PM   #93
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Let me guess - poodle, right?
Actually, he's a black pug named D.T., and he has a fungal infection in his ears. Were you teabagging him?
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:20 PM   #94
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Face it, the B1G is better. You've got ALOT of work still to do to catch them.
Not true at all. Big12 won more non-con games than any other conference. Also for some odd reason the vast majority of the Big12 was in the top ten for hardest schedules. You know why they all had hard schedules? They all had to play eachother. I think ISU had one or two conference games where the other team wasn't ranked at the time.
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Actually, he's a black pug named D.T., and he has a fungal infection in his ears. Were you teabagging him?
I guess if you tried it, it would be half a teabag.
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You should have me write all your comebacks. They make your IQ look slightly above room temperature.
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:25 PM   #99
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Not true at all. Big12 won more non-con games than any other conference. Also for some odd reason the vast majority of the Big12 was in the top ten for hardest schedules. You know why they all had hard schedules? They all had to play eachother. I think ISU had one or two conference games where the other team wasn't ranked at the time.
That's one year when Baylor and Oklahoma State both had the best seasons they've ever had in the conference by far.
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Well I'm pumped. K-State has 2 guys in the top 10 so guess that means we finish second. No reason to even play the games.........amazing breakdown and insight!!
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That's one year when Baylor and Oklahoma State both had the best seasons they've ever had in the conference by far.
Well its good timing for it to happen. They both might regress a little this year, but ISU is slated to have one of its best seasons in a while(it might only be 8 wins, but what of it!)
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Well I'm pumped. K-State has 2 guys in the top 10 so guess that means we finish second. No reason to even play the games.........amazing breakdown and insight!!
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:33 PM   #103
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Well its good timing for it to happen. They both might regress a little this year, but ISU is slated to have one of its best seasons in a while(it might only be 8 wins, but what of it!)
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:40 PM   #104
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Still going to be a couple months before my official predictions but at first glance I see the Big 12 shaking out like this:

1. Oklahoma
2. West Virginia
3. Texas
4. TCU
5. Kansas State
6. Oklahoma State
7. Kansas
8. Texas Tech
9. Iowa State
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Yep, you were right. We have a lot coming back this year and the roster has got a lot more talented every year under CPR. After this year is when it gets interesting though... lose a lot of good players. We have a lot coming back from last year though, so its easy to think you're improving.
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