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Old 01-08-2013, 02:10 PM   #1
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While I'm with everyone that we need a QB; there aren't any high caliber QB's to be had with the no.1 pick IMO. Albert was up and down this season and Winston was outright terrible some of the time.

They are saying this guy is the best OT prospect to come out in 10 years. I would be behind Reid if he decided to take the BPA with the overall no.1 pick and then address the QB position in the 2nd round or trade back up into the 1st to get the QB they want.

I'm also confident we will be active in FA to find a "journeyman" type QB as a mentor.
Are you ****ing with us or something?

Look how long you've been part of this board.....Have you learned nothing?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:15 PM   #2
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Are you ****ing with us or something?

Look how long you've been part of this board.....Have you learned nothing?
yeah.. I've learned that we have 52 players on this team and the majority of them are crap. I've also learned that when a franchise falls in love with one player they end up with Jamarcus Russell.

I'm really starting to believe that if the actual Willie Roaf and the actual Christian Ponder were in the draft. This board would crucify anyone who would say to pick Roaf.

Just seems to be QB or bust.

BTW... from Andy Reid's comments in the PC... seems that he isn't sold on a QB at no.1 this year either.

However, if we do take a QB with the first pick. I will be very happy.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:40 PM   #3
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yeah.. I've learned that we have 52 players on this team and the majority of them are crap. I've also learned that when a franchise falls in love with one player they end up with Jamarcus Russell.
It wasn't just one team.

One well-known TV analyst said Jamarcus Russell was the biggest raw talent he'd EVER seen and was the best QB prospect since John Elway. That same analyst says there aren't any QBs in this draft worthy of the #1 pick.

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I'm really starting to believe that if the actual Willie Roaf and the actual Christian Ponder were in the draft. This board would crucify anyone who would say to pick Roaf.
Well you'd be wrong.

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Just seems to be QB or bust.
30 years of failure will do that to a fan. We've tried EVERY method to get a QB EXCEPT drafting one in the 1st round. That's the only method we haven't tried.

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BTW... from Andy Reid's comments in the PC... seems that he isn't sold on a QB at no.1 this year either.
Andy Reid isn't sold on ANYTHING yet. He just started. He said HE HASN'T LOOKED AT IT YET.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:44 PM   #4
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You know what really drives me nuts? People say this isn't a good QB class, but then go on to say we should wait to draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. Yeah that's brilliant! "It isn't a good QB class to begin with so lets just take one of the 2nd tier guys."
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:08 PM   #5
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You know what really drives me nuts? People say this isn't a good QB class, but then go on to say we should wait to draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. Yeah that's brilliant! "It isn't a good QB class to begin with so lets just take one of the 2nd tier guys."
Well put.

We're not getting anything qb worthy any other way. Even assuming Geno doesn't have the fantastic potential to be completely worthy of the No. 1 pick, there's still a lot of teams out there quite desperate for a QB. I don't care if the qb draft CLASS is weak, because we have the top overall pick.

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Old 01-08-2013, 01:47 PM   #6
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Its not a good QB class. If you have the choice between drafting a Willie Roaf or a Christian Ponder with the no. 1 overall pick. What do you think the best choice is for the future of this franchise?

The "2nd Tier" aren't any different in many respects than the "first tier".
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:49 PM   #7
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Its not a good QB class. If you have the choice between drafting a Willie Roaf or a Christian Ponder with the no. 1 overall pick. What do you think the best choice is for the future of this franchise?

The "2nd Tier" aren't any different in many respects than the "first tier".
Luke Joeckel isn't Willie Roaf.

He isn't even Jake Long.

If Luke Joeckel is Willie Roaf then Geno Smith is Tom Brady.

Seriously, just stop. It's making you look stupid.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:51 PM   #8
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Its not a good QB class. If you have the choice between drafting a Willie Roaf or a Christian Ponder with the no. 1 overall pick. What do you think the best choice is for the future of this franchise?

The "2nd Tier" aren't any different in many respects than the "first tier".
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:51 PM   #9
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Its not a good QB class. If you have the choice between drafting a Willie Roaf or a Christian Ponder with the no. 1 overall pick. What do you think the best choice is for the future of this franchise?

The "2nd Tier" aren't any different in many respects than the "first tier".
Luke Joekel isn't Willie Roaf and Geno Smith isn't Christian Ponder.

I'll go ahead and be lukewarm on Geno and Wilson for the sake of comparison.

Which would make this a better football team next year: Jake Long or Jake Locker?

A) Locker/Albert
B) Alex Smith/Long

A seems like a no-brainer.
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Its not a good QB class. If you have the choice between drafting a Willie Roaf or a Christian Ponder with the no. 1 overall pick. What do you think the best choice is for the future of this franchise?

The "2nd Tier" aren't any different in many respects than the "first tier".
Joeckel is not even close to being Willie Roaf. IMO he's not even an improvement over Albert
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I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?
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I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?
wouldn't it make sense to kill yourself?

sure would save us the time...
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I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?
You weren't blasted for having a differing opinion. You were blasted for having a WRONG opinion.

It's always the same - Geno isn't Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert. But Luke Joeckel is the next Willie Roaf, Manti Te'o is the next Ray Lewis, and Jarvis Jones is the next Derrick Thomas.

It's ridiculous hyperbole and a blatant double standard.
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