Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 104

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

**SAUTO** · 10-31-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If this was as simple as a routine surgery to remove the bone spur, it would have been done years ago. Literally years ago. Especially if the recovery time is only 8 weeks.

The best sports medicine specialists in the world have decided what’s the best way to deal with this.

Be patient.

this is definitely an assumption.

You don't know what the best thought about it. They could have definitely wanted surgery and berry could have declined. That easily COULD be why they are throwing him under the bus as day to day.

**SAUTO** · 10-31-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

His situation is unique in that his body got done fighting off cancer through chemo not long ago and that does a number on a persons immune system and ability to heal.

I think he’s had this deformity for 4 years (or more) and that the doctors are giving their best guess as how to treat it.

another assumption. You think...

Would you like me to keep going?

**SAUTO** · 10-31-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

That’s what I’m saying. This has been going on since before cancer....it’s entirely possible the Achilles is damaged and it’s not that easy.

Assumption

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-31-2018, 07:14 PM

He'll come back when we "need him", and his triumphant return will feature all of the effectiveness and potency of a Benny Hill, end of show speed-chase.

Minus the hilarity of course.

I just hope he stops running long enough to stop and pat/smack Buttons on his head 3 times before taking up the chase again...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-31-2018, 07:16 PM

I assume that "Yakity Sax" would sound pretty boss over the new Arrowhead PA system.

But that's just an assumption.

BWillie · 10-31-2018, 07:17 PM

I'm buying some god damn horses and tying them up in his front yard until he's scared straight enough to play.

OKchiefs · 10-31-2018, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

If this was as simple as a routine surgery to remove the bone spur, it would have been done years ago. Literally years ago. Especially if the recovery time is only 8 weeks.

The best sports medicine specialists in the world have decided what’s the best way to deal with this.

Be patient.

So the best way to deal with it is to avoid surgery, have Berry be day to day for the rest of his career, and maybe play 3-4 games a year?

Titty Meat · 10-31-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

i had Achilles reconstruction and was doing squats and sprints 6 weeks post surgery.

He is milking this or much more serious than they are letting on.

What did you do to your achillies? Ive went 3 weeks without any squats because of my heel

**penguinz** · 10-31-2018, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

What did you do to your achillies? Ive went 3 weeks without any squats because of my heel

i had tendonosis. A bit more than 50% of my Achilles was mush. Had an FHL transfer to repair. I was a very quick healer at the time. Got full medical release at the date I was supposed to go from crutches to walking boot.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-31-2018, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

So the best way to deal with it is to avoid surgery, have Berry be day to day for the rest of his career, and maybe play 3-4 games a year?

Exactly! Isn't heart-felt, feely-good fan nonsense the bestest strategy EVAH?!?!?!?

TambaBerry · 11-05-2018, 10:53 AM

apparently he has made great strides with his heal and is expected back any week now. lmao what the ****

htismaqe · 11-05-2018, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Exactly! Isn't heart-felt, feely-good fan nonsense the bestest strategy EVAH?!?!?!?

Warm and fuzzy, just like Berry's face.

WhawhaWhat · 11-05-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

apparently he has made great strides with his heal and is expected back any week now. lmao what the ****

Sounds like he's day to day.

GloryDayz · 11-05-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

apparently he has made great strides with his heal and is expected back any week now. lmao what the ****

Maybe she just ordered this footwear, so she can join the ranks of the gladiators.

ModSocks · 11-05-2018, 11:22 AM

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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1846899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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