Keep fucking doubting Trent Green...

[Chiefaholic]

That post wasn't diescted directly at you, Tommycat. It was directed at the board in general. Considering all of us are "true Chief fans" (we obviously are or we wouldn't be here), the majority here argues too much.

As far as Trent... He may not be the best in the league. But, he's good enough to get us to the Superbowl (with the supporting cast around him). As long as he's wearing the Red and Gold, I'll always be a strong supporter of Green.

Originally posted by tommykat
Just curious Phob, what besides what you just stated would make you a believer in Trent?

400 yards and 4 TD's isn't going to make me a believer. Improved decision making will. He has improved. A LOT. I'm NOT bashing the guy. Isn't that enough?

I'll let you know when I've become comfortable with Green at QB.

[NaptownChief]

I can't imagine what the title to this thread would have been if Green actually had thrown a TD pass or two...

[Chiefaholic]

Phobia...

Trent was on the sideline the vast majority of the first half. Not everythings about stats. Buffalo did a very good job of keeping our offense off the field. While our defense did a very good job as well by limiting their team to only 16 points in the process.

holic,

I know. I'm not saying Green had a bad game, but it's certainly not the first one he's gonna dig out of the video vault to show the grandkids....

ChiefsPride is posting as though Green just had a career defining game. Not so.

[VonneMarie]

I never doubt Trent Green he's effin AWESOME !

[tommykat]

Originally posted by pHoBiA


400 yards and 4 TD's isn't going to make me a believer. Improved decision making will. He has improved. A LOT. I'm NOT bashing the guy. Isn't that enough?

I'll let you know when I've become comfortable with Green at QB.

Fair enough Phob....

[HeadArrow]

Originally posted by pHoBiA


Oh, he had a great day against Miami. If this topic had appeared then, I'd be happy to listen to Pride and chew on some crow. Green didn't even throw for 200 yards today. You wouldn't guess that by reading Pride's topic header....

He threw the ball 20 times, for 197 yards, 9.85 yards per attempt. Put that with the key runs, he did more than his share today.

He had a better day than Bledsoe.

[HeadArrow]

Sorry, didn't post fast enough to catch your last reply Phobia.

How about we drop all this crap back and forth and CELEBRATE A CHIEFS WIN.

WE WON DAMMIT. WE WON.

[tk13]

Originally posted by HeadArrow
WE WON DAMMIT. WE WON.

Really? It's hard to tell sometimes from what you read....

[keg in kc]

Originally posted by HeadArrow


So.. Let ChiefsPride have his day. The bashers have certainly had theirs when Green didn't deserve it.

This ain't about ChiefsPride 'having his day'. A lot of the shit he's dished-out in the last 24 hours has been directed at me, and I'm not even a Green basher. I just happen to have the audacity to (gasp) say that I'm not particularly happy with the way that Green has played, and that includes today's game, where his two great runs cover up the fact that he was ineffective and inefficient yet again throwing the ball, which is his job.

That's not bashing, that's stating facts...

When I say Green hasn't completed more than 60% of his passes in any of the last five games, that's a fact.

When I say Green is averaging less than 200 yards passing in each of the last five games, that's a fact.

When I say that Green has a 1:1 TD/INT ratio in the last five games, that's a fact.

When I say that Green is averaging less than 1 TD pass in the last five games, that's a fact.


And when I say that the offense, as a whole, is averaging under 17 points/game in the last three games, that's a fact, too.


Do I expect more from Green?

Yes.

Do I believe we NEED more from Green if we want to finish over .500?

Absolutely.

Am I bashing Green?

Hell no. I never have, and I never will.

I'm doing the same thing I do to those guys on defense: giving a frank opinion on the way they've played. When they play well, I say it. When they don't, I say that, too. Ditto for Green. And ditto for anyone else on the team.

And today, Trent Green saved an utterly unforgettable performance at quarterback by making two HUGE key runs that won the game for us every bit as much as Warfield's INT.

That's what makes me 'not a true fan' in ChiefsPride's eyes.

fuck me, 'cause voicing my opinion -- not to mention voicing FACTS -- means I'm not a true believer...

[WilliamTheIrish]

...today.

Phob can we get a smilie that carries a crucifix or something?

Something to indicate the pain that ChiefsPride has to live with each day?

Or an infant smilie suckling?

WilliamTheIrish

[philfree]

Trent completed exactly 60% of his passes today and had a QB rating of 93.1 and his two 4th qtr scrambles won the game. He's leading the offense and making good decisions what more could someone expect.

PhilFree

[keg in kc]

A 60% completion rate is not particularly good. The coaching staff wants (expects) 65-70% from Green, and so do I. His QB rating for today is high because of his yards/attempt, which was very good, and would have been even more phenomenal had he not missed several key open receivers, most notably a wide-open Johnnie Morton. And, for the third game in the last five, he didn't throw a touchdown pass.

And if you're wondering why I key so much on 65%, here's why: we've never lost a game where he completed 65% or more of his passes. 7-0. Including today, when he's under 65%, we've only won 4 of 19.

But enough of this. I want to enjoy today's win, instead of dissect it. The team gets a night to celebrate, and I want mine too. :D

Originally posted by WilliamTheIrish
...today.

Phob can we get a smilie that carries a crucifix or something?

Something to indicate the pain that ChiefsPride has to live with each day?

Or an infant smilie suckling?

WilliamTheIrish

How 'bout this one? Careful, contents under pressure!