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ShowtimeSBMVP · 08:33 AM

Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in
December 3
BY CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday.

The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down.

Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives.

Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium.

Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital.

Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury.

Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday.

Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy

Brock · 12-01-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

You've never committed a crime in your life? Would you like you life to be taken in the same dismissed tone as you've just done with this man's?

I'm not saying this was a good guy or anything but have some ****ing decency.

Breaking into someone's home or vehicle is dangerous. If you getcaught sometimes you get killed. All in the game yo.

Prison Bitch · 12-01-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

It's not ok if somebody breaks into my car and steals whatever bullshit I have in there.

I don't feel they should die if they do, though.

Call me crazy. I've had shit stolen from my car before. I wasn't actively searching for them or wishing they were dead. Just used my insurance.

But this story is quite different. If they confronted the man inside their car, they MUST assume he's dangerous and they MUST protect themselves. It's dark out there and nobody is around, how do they know he isn't armed?

Nobody should shoot someone walking out of your backyard with your step ladder, but this seems dangerous.

BWillie · 12-01-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

WHYD THEY ARREST THE CAR OWNER????

YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANYONE BREAKING INTO YOUR CAR.

Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard. Doesnt warrant killing the guy, at all. Especially, especially when its far far away from your home. Not going to rush to judgment, the car owner could have defended himself or the fight went overboard but tobsay its just ok to kill someone cuz they broke into your car is definitely not ok.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

If it's a 1 on 1 beating of a thief it's okay, but not 2 on 1? I would think that 2 on 1 is more civilized because it shows an ability to cooperate with other people and build alliances.

splatbass · 12-01-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

It will once Bray is under center.

You have to be the dumbest guy on this board. And that is saying something.

Demonpenz · 12-01-2013, 08:24 PM

I once borrowed my dad's astrovan. I was banging a really fatty. I mean she was ****ing fat. Anyway the side door slid open because we delivered flowers in our off hours sometimes and I kept banging away...the sliding door caught a piece of her fat and she squeeled like a pig. I came in Rhino Pro bowling rag and we went back to Shoney's.

Eleazar · 12-01-2013, 08:24 PM

It's not really much different from breaking into a house. You know before you commit the crime there's a percentage chance it could end badly. It's an assumption of the risk.

Demonpenz · 12-01-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I bet they have cameras in the parking lots, so I suspect we'll know the full story soon.

you know the lights got stolen out of arrowheads parking lot.

Raiderhater · 12-01-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

I'm just letting you know the amount of outrage I had in my own personal situation. I didn't walk up on somebody breaking into my car.

So then why so quick to judge a situation where people did.

Pablo · 12-01-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

But this story is quite different. If they confronted the man inside their car, they MUST assume he's dangerous and they MUST protect themselves. It's dark out there and nobody is around, how do they know he isn't armed?

Nobody should shoot someone walking out of your backyard with your step ladder, but this seems dangerous.

I'm actually quite sure we don't know the full story yet.

The thief could have gotten violent and attacked the guy, or this guy could have went apeshit on the dude when it wasn't warranted.

**Rain Man** · 12-01-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Breaking into someone's home or vehicle is dangerous. If you getcaught sometimes you get killed. All in the game yo.

Thievery is an inherently dangerous profession, and there are no OSHA guidelines at all.

stonedstooge · 12-01-2013, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I once borrowed my dad's astrovan. I was banging a really fatty. I mean she was ****ing fat. Anyway the side door slid open because we delivered flowers in our off hours sometimes and I kept banging away...the sliding door caught a piece of her fat and she squeeled like a pig. I came in Rhino Pro bowling rag and we went back to Shoney's.

Get back on your meds.

Jimmya · 12-01-2013, 08:27 PM

The liberals are out........"it's not ok to kill someone stealing" lol...let me know where you live please.

Pablo · 12-01-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

So then why so quick to judge a situation where people did.

I was actually judging your blanket statement where you said you should be able to kill anyone you catch breaking into your vehicle.

That's what I found funny.

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-01-2013, 08:28 PM

Wowa.

Me and my buddies walked by the crime scene by the charter buses and joked someone got offed.

Whoops...pretty creepy.

12-01-2013, 07:18 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3596009	810 Just said someone got murderd outside Arrowhead Police: Man who died at Arrowhead was in a vehicle similar to one he arrived in December 3 BY CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star A Smithville man who was found in someone else’s Jeep and then died in a struggle outside Arrowhead Stadium Sunday had gone to the game in a similar vehicle that was parked nearby, police said Tuesday. The Jeep also showed no signs of a break-in, leading police to believe it may have been left unlocked when Kyle Van Winkle, 30, climbed in and sat down. Police released the additional details Tuesday as they continued to investigate what led to the death of Van Winkle, who had attended the Chiefs game against the Denver Broncos with relatives. Detectives planned to interview relatives Tuesday to determine when they last saw him inside the stadium. Police were called to Lot A of the Truman Sports Complex about 5:20 p.m. Sunday on a disturbance. Witnesses told police the Jeep owner had returned to his vehicle with his son, who is about 10 years old, when they realized a stranger was inside. The boy summoned help from several tail-gaters and they engaged in a struggle with Van Winkle, who had been sitting in the Jeep. Van Winkle collapsed and later died at a hospital. Police did not say how Van Winkle died, but they said his body bore no signs of obvious injury. Officers arrested three men shortly after the death, but they had to track down the fourth man who was arrested. Police searched one man’s home in Independence on Monday. Detectives released three of the men Monday night and the fourth man Tuesday morning, pending further investigation. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/12/03...#storylink=cpy Last edited by Gonzo; 07-14-2016 at 08:33 AM.. Reason: Couldn't stand it anymore.
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	It's not really much different from breaking into a house. You know before you commit the crime there's a percentage chance it could end badly. It's an assumption of the risk.
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Jimmya Veteran Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10024530	The liberals are out........"it's not ok to kill someone stealing" lol...let me know where you live please.
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Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $2960526	Wowa. Me and my buddies walked by the crime scene by the charter buses and joked someone got offed. Whoops...pretty creepy. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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