Shanahan Grilled by DC Press (Says the MRI Might Be Wrong Because of Old Injuries)

[RINGLEADER]

Watching Shanahan get questioned about putting RG3 into the game long enough to watch his knee go side-ways. Getting peeved. Fun to watch him squirm. The fact that he didn't come out and say RG3 was fine and instead is sending him to Dr. Andrews for another set of MRIs ("sometimes old injuries can fool new MRIs") doesn't sound good...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Bummer Tude Dude

[htismaqe]

Coming up on NFLN, discussion about the NFL CHANGING THE RULES to prevent players from "putting themselves in harms way".

I'm not shitting you.

They played a clip of RG3 saying he gets paid to play football and he needed to play and followed it with a tease that the NFL is going to "make changes" so that players can't continue to hurt themselves.

**** THE NFL. JFC

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Holy balls Goodell's version of the NFL is a joke. He's the Pioli of Commisioners.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

MarkMaske ‏@MarkMaske

According to medical experts not involved in R. Griffin case, recovery from LCL repair can take 8 to 12 months... http://wapo.st/WKTQ1T

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Coming up on NFLN, discussion about the NFL CHANGING THE RULES to prevent players from "putting themselves in harms way".

I'm not shitting you.

They played a clip of RG3 saying he gets paid to play football and he needed to play and followed it with a tease that the NFL is going to "make changes" so that players can't continue to hurt themselves.

**** THE NFL. JFC

Considering the chances of former players suing the league, I'm not sure I can blame him on this issue.

It's a tough topic. You know there are unspoken (and perhaps spoken) attitudes in the league about playing through injuries. The players are probably pressured, and.put pressure on themselves in many cases. Then 15 years down the road, the media is asking tough questions about concussions, and players are looking to be compensated for their lingering health issues. It's only a matter of time until a player with RG3 talent and Ryan Leaf brains decides the NFL was negligent in protecting him from a career ending injury.

[Dylan]

According to many medical sites, LCL injuries are very rarely the only injury a knee has.

Similar to MCL tears, isolated injuries of the lateral collateral ligament (LCL) are uncommon, typically occurring in association with ACL or posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) tears. Injuries of the lateral compartment are complex, usually with injuries to multiple components; they are often more disabling than injuries of the medial structures because of the greater forces to which lateral structures are subjected during normal gait.[2]

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/401472-overview

[Dylan]

Sally Jenkins, Columnist Washington Post, nailed it with this [1,060 word] article

Excerpt: Redskins invested in Robert Griffin III, then everyone put his future in jeopardy

But the one who had more responsibility than anyone else was Shanahan. He wanted institutional control of the Redskins, prized a CEO-like role, and he got it. There is no taking the burden of this decision off him.

There isn’t a coach on the planet who doesn’t obsess over knees, who doesn’t know exactly what stresses them, and who can’t diagram a knee. They all understand how playing with an injury alters movement, and creates complications and potential chain reactions.

Four weeks ago, when Griffin hurt his LCL against the Baltimore Ravens, the Redskins were overjoyed to announce that an MRI showed no structural damage at that time. He had just a “strained” ligament. There was no trouble reading that picture — it was totally clear to them.

For a while, it looked like the RGIII-Shanahan partnership was so good, so electric, that they could overcome the Redskins’ terrible recent past. Instead, all of the old organizational flaws seem present again: the half-truths and rationalizations for terrible decisions, and the habit of spending too heavily today and mortgaging tomorrow.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...9_story_1.html

*Bold - Ms Sally got that part right.

[Stad]

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Redskins QB Robert Griffin III will undergo total reconstruction of knee for complete tear of ACL and LCL. Recovery projection: 6-8 mos.
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Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Dr. James Andrews will perform surgery in about 6 hours. Diagnosis already made that ACL graft of @RGIII's 2009 surgery is complete tear
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[Smed1065]

Wow

[Dylan]

Dr. James Andrews backtracks story:

How was the decision made to let Robert Griffin III play on Sunday? 'looks at me' and 'I guess he's OK.' Hi' sign as in, 'He's running around, so I guess he's OK.'

Dr. James Andrews told the Washington Post that "Shanahan didn't lie about it, and I didn't lie."

"I didn't get to examine (Griffin's knee) because he came out for one play, didn't let us look at him and on the next play, he ran through all the players and back out onto the field," he told the newspaper.

"Coach Shanahan looks at me like, 'Is he OK?' and I give him the 'Hi' sign as in, 'He's running around, so I guess he's OK.' But I didn't get to check him out until after the game. It was just a communication problem. Heat of battle. I didn't get to tell him I didn't get to examine the knee. Mike Shanahan would never have put him out there at risk just to win a game."

Asked about the discrepancy in accounts, Shanahan on Sunday offered this explanation.

“Well, after the game we talked in detail. When he went back into the game at that time, I looked over at Dr. Andrews, he said, ‘Yeah, he’s ok to go back in.’ Of course I’m sitting there trying to evaluate Kirk Cousins’ play, so when someone says he’s OK… Well, what Dr. Andrews is talking about, when I talked to him today, he said, ‘Hey, Robert came around and he started showing us he could run; he was sprinting around and then he just took off, so I just figured he was OK. I didn’t go through a thorough examination of him until after the game.’ I wasn’t really sure in what detail he was talking about at that time. He felt Robert – just looking at him run and then take off – that he was ok to go back in. I looked at him for the next three plays, the first time he had Santana [Moss] shell across, the next time he threw a little out-round, and it looked like his footwork was good. But you could see on that last one, where he hit Pierre Garçon, that when he stepped into the pocket that it wasn’t right. At that time Pierre caught it and he was trying to kill the clock, but we were going to take him out at that time, and that’s when Kirk came in.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...altimore-game/

Shame that RGIII had to be drafted by the Redskins organization.

Enough, let me go read about my own team.

[tk13]

There's a lot of confusion about this. This story is not about Sunday's game. The problem with Shanahan and James Andrews was during the Baltimore game earlier in the season. That was what Andrews was complaining about, and said he was nervous about keeping Griffin out there.

Might be the only drawback to having a star QB really... if he puts himself back in the game, he puts himself back in the game. You're gonna get killed if you pull him to get checked out.

[Hootie]

omg Dylan SHUT UP

this is such a non story

he'll be the same RGIII at the beginning of next season

we'll see if he gets injured again

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by stadw0n306

Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Redskins QB Robert Griffin III will undergo total reconstruction of knee for complete tear of ACL and LCL. Recovery projection: 6-8 mos.
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Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport
Dr. James Andrews will perform surgery in about 6 hours. Diagnosis already made that ACL graft of @RGIII's 2009 surgery is complete tear
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Everything you need to know about the Redskins spin city organization: Yeah, let's rush Griffin back.

Griffin's injury is not as bad as thought and Robert will be ready for training camp. We're right on track to win the Super Bowl next season.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

omg Dylan SHUT UP

this is such a non story

he'll be the same RGIII at the beginning of next season

we'll see if he gets injured again

It is a big story because of the way Griffin III was handled -

It's sad that Griffin was forced into that situation.

Now put me on ignore, ya biddie!

[Hootie]

'forced into that situation'

I've been trying to be less hostile on this board, avoiding altercations

but you're ****ing stupid, and you know nothing about football

nothing