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Old 01-16-2015, 10:40 PM  
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LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?

Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:05 PM   #346
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:10 PM   #347
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:12 PM   #348
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Nope. That was "new car smell" for an already talented roster. Smith only mildly peed in the back seat.
Bullshit and you know it.

How long has Charles been on the roster and has been considered one of the best RB's in the league?

How long has Dwayne Bowe been on the roster? Everyone around here thinks he's the greatest WR in NFL history and it's Smith that's ruined him. What's Bowe's Win-Loss record before Smith? Etc, etc., etc.

But yet, when Smith gets here, we have the first back to back winning seasons for the first time in nearly 20 years.

Weird.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:12 PM   #349
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What Roundup said.

You don't bench a guy you're paying $20m a year that you acquired for two second rounders.
Vick got benched a little over a year after signing a 100 million dollar deal.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:13 PM   #350
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Is Smith actually Mormon?

Asking for a friend.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:23 PM   #351
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Vick got benched a little over a year after signing a 100 million dollar deal.
Smith isn't bad enough to warrant that treatment.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:34 PM   #352
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Uh huh.

This thread is proof enough. You need a QB that elevates the play of those around him to contend for titles. Instead people are looking to rookies and possible FA targets to elevate the QB's play.

It's the same things that were said about Cassel... And Huard...
This is said alot around here, but how many qbs actually do that or are asked to do that 3 very game for said team to be successful?

Rodgers is. Luck is.

Other than that, who does it as much as cp seems to demand a qb have too?

This isn't about Smith elevating those around him. It's about him playing as well as the talent around him is playing. He didn't do that enough this year.

But put a team on their back and carry it to a superbowl? There are maybe 5 guys in the league that can do that. Maybe 5.
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Old 01-18-2015, 01:48 PM   #353
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This is said alot around here, but how many qbs actually do that or are asked to do that 3 very game for said team to be successful?

Rodgers is. Luck is.

Other than that, who does it as much as cp seems to demand a qb have too?

This isn't about Smith elevating those around him. It's about him playing as well as the talent around him is playing. He didn't do that enough this year.

But put a team on their back and carry it to a superbowl? There are maybe 5 guys in the league that can do that. Maybe 5.
I think you are being generous.
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I think you are being generous.
I think there are guys who can do it, but don't or aren't asked to as much as luck and rodgers.
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He traded 2 2nd round picks for Smith. If he wasn't his guy then he is monumentally more stupid than I give home credit for.

You guys are killing your reidcuses defense with these rebuttals.
Name a better QB available in 2013.
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I think there are guys who can do it, but don't or aren't asked to as much as luck and rodgers.
How many Super Bowls has Aaron Rogers been in?

Other than that amazing 2011 run, Rogers hasn't been a world beater in the playoffs.

How many has Luck?

Like I said, I think you are being generous.

Brady. Roelisberger. Warner. Aikman. Elway. Kelly. Montana. Bradshaw. Tarkenton. Greise. Manning.

Those are the dudes, as it stands, that have done that.

But **** Smith because he's not that guy. We should have that guy. Every draft. Every free agency period.
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Name a better QB available in 2013.
Why did there have to be? Thats like buying the nicest piece of shit on a car lot rather than taking time to go to a different lot.

Its not like he was signed as a FA on a one year deal.
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Why did there have to be? Thats like buying the nicest piece of shit on a car lot rather than taking time to go to a different one.
Piece of shit, huh?

Like the 2013 season?

With Smith, we've had the first back to back winning seasons since '97 (after enduring one of the worst seasons of any team in NFL history), and you think that hasn't been worth two lousy second round picks?

You are wearing stupid like a cheap suit.
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Why did there have to be? Thats like buying the nicest piece of shit on a car lot rather than taking time to go to a different lot.

Its not like he was signed as a FA on a one year deal.
Shoulda drafted Geno Smiff like you wanted. Would have really taken us far just like NYJ.
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