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Old 09-27-2014, 09:48 AM  
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Moral Judgement On Prostitutes

So last night/this morning I had some people over. A friend brought a friend who, it turns out, is a high end prostitute. I don't roll like that, I pay for pussy in the traditional drinks and entertainment sort of way. This lady is beautiful, intelligent, and worldly. Great conversation but all I can think is "yeah but you're still a whore". Sharing this because bye week...
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Old 09-27-2014, 04:47 PM   #91
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And you're paying because you're not good enough, regardless of Charlie Sheen quotes. It's pathetic.

If you have to pay someone to act like they like you, you're a sorry ass mother****er.


You are taking this way too seriously.

I've never hired one.

I would though, if my life was entirely different than it is now.
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Old 09-27-2014, 04:48 PM   #92
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Was the female escort working last night, or just there as a friend of your bud?
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Old 09-27-2014, 04:53 PM   #93
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You are taking this way too seriously.

I've never hired one.

I would though, if my life was entirely different than it is now.
Nah, you assume I'm taking this seriously, as though I can't call someone a pathetic piece of shit while walking a chewing gum.
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:00 PM   #94
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I worked with some guy back in 99 who had this redheaded girlfriend. WEll thats what he introduced her as. I was like wtf is this young hot redhead doign with this ugly mother****er. Then one day, he told me, she's not my GF, i pimp her out. lol Then i was like ooh, makes sense now. He always offered her services to me for half price, but i passed. Probably should have, she was pretty ****ing hot. My Boss even asked me, whats the deal with them 2. I told him and he goes, oooh, now that makes sense! haha
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:11 PM   #95
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On a side note, if you had the option of becoming either a male gigolo or working a 9-5 which one would you guys pick?
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:13 PM   #96
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On a side note, if you had the option of becoming either a male gigolo or working a 9-5 which one would you guys pick?
I can't bang horny housewives from 9-5?
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I can't bang horny housewives from 9-5?
If you're really that ambitious, sure.
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:19 PM   #98
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I don't understand why sex is viewed as something sacred. It's a physical thing. I'll own the fact that I'm not the most socially attuned person in the world, but I really don't understand how it's that different than getting a haircut or a pedicure, other than being more enjoyable. Sex has nothing to do with love, and it involves a lot of body fluid and cleanup afterwards. Apples and oranges. If a woman has a talent and interest in that area and can earn a good living, go for it.

Prostitution should be no different than a coffee shop. I should be able to go with the mall to my wife, and she says, "Hey, let's meet up in an hour. I'm going to go to Nieman Marcus and I'll probably have a coffee", and I say, "I'm going to pick up some running shoes and then get some quick oral sex at the Naked Chicks store." Tell me why society collapses if that scenario occurs. In fact, I think society becomes much more happy and sales tax revenues skyrocket.

And yeah, yeah, trafficking, whatever. Obviously, people shouldn't be forced into prostitution, but they also shouldn't be forced into road paving or fast food or nursing. Being against slavery and kidnapping is very different than being against the Naked Chicks store at the mall.
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Was the female escort working last night, or just there as a friend of your bud?
Strictly social, friend of a girl I know.
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If you're really that ambitious, sure.
Is that really ambitious? I bet you could make bank as a male hooker with a 10 AM, 1 PM and 3 PM session. Pop a viagra after lunch.
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:27 PM   #101
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And you're paying because you're not good enough, regardless of Charlie Sheen quotes. It's pathetic.

If you have to pay someone to act like they like you, you're a sorry ass mother****er.
You are missing the point here...
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:52 PM   #102
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I understand and respect that POV.

My issue with it is two-fold:

#1) They are making an implicit value judgment that their worth is tied to their ability to perform sex acts for compensation, which reinforces the idea of women as objects for edification.

#2) Deceit is integral to the occupation itself, and it relies upon choice, not necessity. There is a difference between someone stealing a loaf of bread to survive and stealing it because they can.
I would offer a couple of counterpoints.

How is point #1 not true for other professions? If society treated sexual services like a physical service akin to getting a massage or a haircut, then it's no different than any of those things. It's trading a service for payment, no more and no less. I don't understand why it's treated under a different set of rules.

Also on Point #1, the feminist issue cuts both ways. We as society are looking at a service that women can provide almost exclusively (set aside the gay and gigolo markets for a moment), and saying "don't do that; we want you to be 'pure and chaste'". As was mentioned earlier, it's a route that many women can take to be economically self-sufficient, and it's not allowed? And as others have mentioned, it's the woman's body. Why can she not act as she sees fit? We let boxers beat the bloody hell out of each other and we let soldiers go into combat and we let iron workers walk around 80 stories up, but we don't let a woman make her own decision about impersonating a starfish for ten minutes to make her car payment?

On your second point, I don't really know the dynamics of prostitution. Are you citing "deception" as an implication that the woman is pretending that she likes the john, or that she enjoys the sex? If so, I'll note that my waitress pretends she likes me so she can get a bigger, and my vendors pretend to like me so I'll hire them again. When I go onto a car lot, I'm an A-list celebrity. It's not deceit, it's sales.

I think it's very paternalistic to control prostitution, and while I know this sounds counterintuitive, I think it's disrespectful to assume that women are unable to make this decision and we as society must protect and control them (and cut off some income from them).
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Is that really ambitious? I bet you could make bank as a male hooker with a 10 AM, 1 PM and 3 PM session. Pop a viagra after lunch.
I doubt that's sustainable though, if there are roughly 260 weekdays in a year, and you're taking 2 Viagra's per day, we're looking at 500+ pills per year... you will inevitably catch a stroke in the near future. Either that, or eventually lose all empathy for sexual desires and OD on some heroine while listening to a Smiths album.
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I doubt that's sustainable though, if there are roughly 260 weekdays and you're taking 2 Viagra's per day, we're looking at 500+ pills per year... you will inevitably catch a stroke in the near future. .
I doubt you'd be doing it every day. Maybe 2-3 times a week. One viagra or cialis a day and you'd be great. So 2-3 a week.
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I don't understand the argument since the oldest profession is still alive and well. It has its place in humanity.
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