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SPATCH · 10-28-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I don't think you realize how shitty most of the QBs in the NFL actually are.

Good players at the QB position are very, very rare. You can argue only like 1/3 of the league has it.

I could name 20 guys right now that I would rather have than Alex Smith.

Alex Smith had a lot of critics here when we made the trade and he hasn't done much to win his critics over yet.

He still can't throw the deep ball with any effectiveness whatsoever and that is severely limiting our offense. I don't think anyone is out of line to continue to air the same grievances that they were airing before the season.

mcaj22 · 10-28-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

I could name 20 guys right now that I would rather have than Alex Smith.

Alex Smith had a lot of critics here when we made the trade and he hasn't done much to win his critics over yet.

He still can't throw the deep ball with any effectiveness whatsoever and that is severely limiting our offense. I don't think anyone is out of line to continue to air the same grievances that they were airing before the season.

there are not 20 guys that give you a better chance at the SB than Smith

just because Tony Romo, Jay Cutler, and Matt Stafford can throw for 4000 yards doesnt mean they are any better of legitimate Super Bowl contending QBs than Smith is.

In fact those guys haven't shown much either, and they are "passing" QBs.

SPATCH · 10-28-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

there are not 20 guys that give you a better chance at the SB than Smith

just because Tony Romo, Jay Cutler, and Matt Stafford can throw for 4000 yards doesnt mean they are any better of legitimate Super Bowl contending QBs than Smith is.

In fact those guys haven't shown much either, and they are "passing" QBs.

Oh hell to the ****ing yes it does.

I would give my left nut for Matt Stafford on this team.

**doomy3** · 10-28-2013, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

Oh hell to the ****ing yes it does.

I would give my left nut for Matt Stafford on this team.

Jay Cutler has played with a top 3 defense for the last few years, and hasn't sniffed success. BUT HE THROWS A NICE DEEP BALL!!!

(Agree with you on Stafford. However, there wasn't really a Stafford in this draft.)

hitchief · 10-28-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

Oh hell to the ****ing yes it does.

I would give my left nut for Matt Stafford on this team.

Yeah, the big passing yards would be great but there is that little trade off called interceptions.

Your great D is gonna be so great if they have to defend short fields a lot and have to play more snaps due to an O that doesn't control the clock.

And by the way he would not have Megatron to just toss up jump balls to all the time.

And yeah, they have been passing for huge yards ever since he got there but what in the hell has that team won with him there?

**Dartgod** · 10-28-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

I could name 20 guys right now that I would rather have than Alex Smith.

Of those 20, please name the ones that were actually available to the Chiefs.

Carlota69 · 10-28-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Of those 20, please name the ones that were actually available to the Chiefs.

Thats exactly what I was about to ask? What was the FO suppose to do, call Detroit and say hey give us Stafford cuz we need him?
WTF is wrong with people? Who was better that was available??? Who? Matt ****ing Flynn who couldnt beat out Pryor, and is still warming a bench? Moore who isnt starting anywhere either?

KC Jones · 10-28-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Thats exactly what I was about to ask? What was the FO suppose to do, call Detroit and say hey give us Stafford cuz we need him?
WTF is wrong with people? Who was better that was available??? Who? Matt ****ing Flynn who couldnt beat out Pryor, and is still warming a bench? Moore who isnt starting anywhere either?

This.

SPATCH · 10-28-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Of those 20, please name the ones that were actually available to the Chiefs.

I understand the "he was the best QB available" argument. Believe me.

But, watching our team hitch the wagon to another noodle-arm for the foreseeable future is just hard to stomach.

We sit back and watch guys like Luck, Griffin III, Wilson, Kaepernick, even EJ Manuel (when healthy) and it is hard not to want in on that action.

But, we're tied to Alex Smith because he was the best option we had. Whatever.

duncan_idaho · 10-28-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I don't think you realize how shitty most of the QBs in the NFL actually are.

Good players at the QB position are very, very rare. You can argue only like 1/3 of the league has it.

I don't think you realize how ordinary Alex Smith has been.

He's better than Matt Cassel/Brady Quinn, but that doesn't make him good.

Down4Chiefs · 10-28-2013, 09:53 AM

Alex Smith definitly was the best option I think and we probaly wouldn't be where we are without him,he has to get some credit. Dude had bad seasons in SF as well,I do think he needs to be in the right system with the right pieces to be as effective. But I have no problem giving him another year and betttwer weapons. My concern is andy reids style of not caring to establish the run will keep him from ever becoming effective with the Chiefs. The coaching staff has gotten credit in using players in the right way where other coaches didn't. But has Andy Reid really played up to his players/offense strengths?Sutton has but not so sure about Reid

What you see is not hate though,its nervousness. Whenever Chiefs fans see the team doing well we feel like this is our one and only shot lol. And we've seen previous teams that were great fail because one side of the football had glaring weaknesses. So really its just Chiefs fans knowing our history lol.

Some folks are too negative but I assume they are trolling. But chiefs fans are just scared to show commitment and love after being hurt so much lol. But everybody is happy!

mcaj22 · 10-28-2013, 09:55 AM

those numbers from those QBs are FOOLS GOLD

didn't you learn anything from Matt Cassel in NE. Inflated frauds. That's why they are backups.

tk13 · 10-28-2013, 10:00 AM

I think fans are wary because we've seen this "one side of the ball" domination before.

I do think Andy Reid is not Marty though. This is the first time we've had a great D with an offensive minded coach.

**the Talking Can** · 10-28-2013, 10:15 AM

stafford isn't better than smith

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SPATCH · 10-28-2013, 10:17 AM

Anyone who would rather have Alex Smith than Matt Stafford plz GTFO my face.

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Down4Chiefs Starter Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10005110	Alex Smith definitly was the best option I think and we probaly wouldn't be where we are without him,he has to get some credit. Dude had bad seasons in SF as well,I do think he needs to be in the right system with the right pieces to be as effective. But I have no problem giving him another year and betttwer weapons. My concern is andy reids style of not caring to establish the run will keep him from ever becoming effective with the Chiefs. The coaching staff has gotten credit in using players in the right way where other coaches didn't. But has Andy Reid really played up to his players/offense strengths?Sutton has but not so sure about Reid What you see is not hate though,its nervousness. Whenever Chiefs fans see the team doing well we feel like this is our one and only shot lol. And we've seen previous teams that were great fail because one side of the football had glaring weaknesses. So really its just Chiefs fans knowing our history lol. Some folks are too negative but I assume they are trolling. But chiefs fans are just scared to show commitment and love after being hurt so much lol. But everybody is happy!
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10-28-2013, 09:55 AM	#12
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