Matt Barkley doesn't resemble elite quarterback prospect in 2012

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by milkman

That's complete and utter bullshit, which is a specialty for you.

RGIII never faced the kind of pressure that Smith faces consistently, but when Smith is in the pocket, he has far more pocket awareness and passing skill set at this point in their development.



Who gives a rat's ass if a QB is an elite running QB?

If you don't succeed as a passing QB, you ain't winning shit in the NFL.

You are ****ing moron.

Smith can't overcome shit to win a game. RGIII did.

[redrage16]

Believe me i was high on this guy he is a backup at best listen to a vol fan

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Setsuna

Smith can't overcome shit to win a game. RGIII did.

Name me one QB that can overcome shit every game.

I'm talking about a guy that is trying to keep up with opposing offenses because his defense couldn't stop your grandmother and her friends if they played a game against them, all while having to contend with constant pressure, because his O-Line couldn't block your grandmother and her friends either.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Name me one QB that can overcome shit every game.

I'm talking about a guy that is trying to keep up with opposing offenses because his defense couldn't stop your grandmother and her friends if they played a game against them, all while having to contend with constant pressure, because his O-Line couldn't block your grandmother and her friends either.

And again, the reason you call it a risk is you have to ASSUME he is a clutch qb even though we haven't seem enough physical evidence. We have to assume he can handle tough defenses even though hes played mostly Mickey mouse defenses. Or that he can bounce back after getting battered around. We have to assume he will excel at blitz pickups, hot reads, and can win even in games where the defense dominates the o line.

I like the guys ability to overcome these things. But they are risks. Risks I didn't worry about last year with rgIII.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And again, the reason you call it a risk is you have to ASSUME he is a clutch qb even though we haven't seem enough physical evidence. We have to assume he can handle tough defenses even though hes played mostly Mickey mouse defenses. Or that he can bounce back after getting battered around. We have to assume he will excel at blitz pickups, hot reads, and can win even in games where the defense dominates the o line.

I like the guys ability to overcome these things. But they are risks. Risks I didn't worry about last year with rgIII.

That is just a stupid ****ing argument.

You are just making shit up to support a stupid ****ing argument with no merit.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

That is just a stupid ****ing argument.

You are just making shit up to support a stupid ****ing argument with no merit.

He hasn't played good defenses. He hasnt proven to be nails in the clutch consistently. His biggest successes have come out of a college oriented offense.

I didn't say he can't do these things. I am saying you are assuming he can even though we haven't seen it.

I'm the one arguing on merit. You're the one who is absolutely sure about something we haven't seen.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He hasn't played good defenses. He hasnt proven to be nails in the clutch consistently. His biggest successes have come out of a college oriented offense.

I didn't say he can't do these things. I am saying you are assuming he can even though we haven't seen it.

I'm the one arguing on merit. You're the one who is absolutely sure about something we haven't seen.

not like he scored 70 in the bowl game ...or lit up the #8 passing d in the country last week and almost beat Oklahoma with no defense.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BossChief

not like he scored 70 in the bowl game ...or lit up the #8 passing d in the country last week and almost beat Oklahoma with no defense.

Never happened.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

not like he scored 70 in the bowl game ...or lit up the #8 passing d in the country last week and almost beat Oklahoma with no defense.

For a #1 qb, you are basing off a very low sample size against defenses that aren't exactly elite. It is an assumption that because he carved up Oklahoma, that means he can carve up the texans.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He hasn't played good defenses. He hasnt proven to be nails in the clutch consistently. His biggest successes have come out of a college oriented offense.

I didn't say he can't do these things. I am saying you are assuming he can even though we haven't seen it.

I'm the one arguing on merit. You're the one who is absolutely sure about something we haven't seen.

What? He put his team in position to win multiple times vs OU and TCU, both good teams.

OU was the 12th rated defense and have 2 first round caliber DB's and Geno torched them. TCU has a nice DB prospect in Jason Verett (5 INT's this year) and Geno torched him too at the end of the game for a TD.

TCU, TTU, KSU and OU were all good defenses that Geno has played this year. And he made good throws on an insanely talented LSU defense last year.