Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

[Deberg_1990]

Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.

[HotCarl]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

He doesnt turn the ball over?!?!?!

He has more ****ing picks and fumbles than Mark Kasl!!!

Sure, if you count all those years that were more than 4 years ago.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by DonTellMeShowMe

Andy Reid will have Smith balling next season, I can't wait to see you guys flip the switch seriously, ya'll will be calling him "Shitty" in no time

fyp

[Namor40]

Trade good for all sides: Everybody Wins

From CBS Sports

nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21779979/everybody-wins-in-alex-smith-trade-to-chiefs

Smith isn't a stopgap. He can play another five years, minimum, at a top level.

This approach for Reid is far smarter than going through the draft. Who would you rather have? Matt Barkley or Alex Smith? I'll take Smith. Every personnel evaluator would take Smith for what could end up being two second-rounders.

NFL history is riddled with the carcasses of high draft picks who have gone on to be busts. Go down the list: David Carr, Todd Marinovich, JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, Dave Brown, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Andre Ware, Rick Mirer and, maybe the biggest quarterback bust of all time, Ryan Leaf.

On and on it goes.

You get the proven commodity. That's it. That's all. Especially if that commodity has proven to be good.

So, for one of the first times ever, in an NFL trade:

Everyone wins.

[KCrockaholic]

I still don't know how a QB with 8 1/2 inch hands was once considered the top QB in the draft.

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by DonTellMeShowMe

Andy Reid will have Smith balling next season, I can't wait to see you guys flip the switch seriously, ya'll will be calling him "Smittie" in no time

People like you amuse me.

By amuse... I mean I wish you would fall in a pit of acid that ate away at you so slowly and painfully that you would die from starvation before the acid claimed you.

[Alexsmithpro]

Originally Posted by DonTellMeShowMe

Andy Reid will have Smith balling next season, I can't wait to see you guys flip the switch seriously, ya'll will be calling him "Smittie" in no time

Totally agree. I just got kicked off a discussion for defending this team and smith. Lol this forum is something else. But as a 9er fan u all got a good pick up. And you all will see.

[The Franchise]

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

"Word around the NFL" is #Raiders are interested in Geno Smith at the 3rd overall pick, per ESPN's Chris Mortensen: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8326/geno-smith …

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Namor40

Trade good for all sides: Everybody Wins

From CBS Sports

nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21779979/everybody-wins-in-alex-smith-trade-to-chiefs

No one cares about your stupid link.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Get ****ed. Top 10 QB, blow that smoke out your ass.

Don't come on here and patronize us like we haven't watched the NFL or know exactly what Alex Smith is. Patriots fans tried to do the same thing.

You know who it's a win for? Your team and only your team.

Which is why they're here of course. If they thought they didn't get a good deal, they'd be on their own board bitching.

[dirk digler]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...vs-matt-cassel


2008-2012 Cassel vs. Smith

QB	Cassel	Smith
W-L	29-33-0	27-17-1
Comp.	1,181	855
Att.	2,005	1,377
Pct.	58.9	62.1
Yards	13,242	9,601
TD	80	62
INT	55	32
NFL rating	80.6	88.2
Sacked	156	115
Sack pct.	6.9	7.4
Rush	208	125
Rush yds.	828	422
Rush TD	3	2
Rush FD	51	28
QB PAA	-26.5	-17.9
QB PAR	+185.5	+128.4
Total QBR	46.6	46.6
Source: ESPN Stats & Information

Smith's unofficial trade from San Francisco to Kansas City invited comparisons between Smith and recent Chiefs starting quarterback Matt Cassel. Smith was much better than Cassel during the 2012 season. He has much better traditional passing stats over the past two seasons. But as the chart shows, Cassel and Smith have identical Total QBR scores over the past five years. They were at 46.6. All starting quarterbacks were at 53.0 over that period. ()

Cassel was slightly ahead of Smith, 46.4 to 45.8, when only starts were considered. (We are ****ed)

Smith's replacement in San Francisco, Colin Kaepernick, ranks second to Peyton Manning at 77.8 among starting quarterbacks with at least seven starts since 2008. Aaron Rodgers is third, Tom Brady fourth and Drew Brees fifth.

The 49ers felt good enough about Kaepernick after seven regular-season starts and three playoff games to make the move away from Smith permanent. They're reportedly getting the Chiefs' 2013 second-round draft choice and a 2014 pick as compensation. That's a very good deal for the 49ers, in my view. They wanted Smith off their roster before he received a bonus of $1 million on April 1, at which point his $7.5 million salary would have become guaranteed.

The Chiefs, meanwhile, weren't targeting the Smith who struggled with injuries and constant coordinator turnover years ago. They hope they're getting the Smith who ranked among the NFL's better quarterbacks recently, especially last season.

2012 Cassel vs. Smith

QB	Cassel	Smith
W-L	1-7-0	6-2-1
Comp.	161	153
Att.	277	218
Pct.	58.1	70.2
Yards	1,796	1,737
TD	6	13
INT	12	5
NFL rating	66.7	104.1
Sacked	19	24
Sack pct.	6.6	9.9
Rush	27	31
Rush yds.	145	132
Rush TD	1	0
Rush FD	12	6
QB PAA	-14.4	+19.0
QB PAR	+14.2	+43.5
Total QBR	36.5	70.1
Source: ESPN Stats & Information

The second chart shows why Smith could be appealing as an alternative to Cassel. He led the NFL in completion percentage (70.2), ranked seventh in Total QBR (70.1) and was third in NFL passer rating (104.1). He also had a 19-5-1 starting record over the past two seasons.

However, Smith's strong numbers in 2012 reflected his abilities on early downs. His third-down Total QBR (33.1) trailed Cassel's (44.5). It's fair to wonder whether Smith will produce as well overall on a weaker team that could face predictable passing situations more frequently. Smith was at his best last season changing plays and keeping defenses off-balance. That's tougher to do when the defense knows a pass is coming.

NFC West blogger Kevin Seifert and I discussed these possibilities during the podcast.

Donovan McNabb can provide one point of reference. He succeeded under Chiefs coach Andy Reid as a high draft choice in Philadelphia. McNabb benefited from the organizational continuity Reid and the Eagles provided for more than a decade. Smith never benefited from that type of environment until the past couple seasons. Perhaps he can pick up in Kansas City where he left off in San Francisco.

The Chiefs certainly hope that will be the case.

[RyFo18]

Originally Posted by DonTellMeShowMe

Andy Reid will have Smith balling next season, I can't wait to see you guys flip the switch seriously, ya'll will be calling him "Smittie" in no time

I'm going to be chanting for David Carr.

[opposition]

Originally Posted by HotCarl

I have thought since the offseason began that Alex Smith was our best option. He is underrated by people with Geno blinders on, and he will work out in KC.

That being said, we did give up too much. I can't fathom Reid and Dorsey overpaying for him, but there could have been another team in the mix.

Quarterbacks are boom or bust. If one works out, he's worth a first rounder - probably multiple first rounders. If he doesn't work out, a 7th was too much.

If Alex Smith is good enough to win playoff games here, basically, if he's as good as he was last year - good enough for San Fran to be a muffed punt away from the Super Bowl - then a 2nd won't be overpaying. But I think we did give a premium for what he's worth right now, as I was hoping for 3rd-4th.

Either way, the QB position is settled, now we move on with one purpose which is improving the roster everywhere else.

Good post. Can't really argue with the 2nd rounder. Though, looking through some of your 2nd round picks, even first round picks what have they really done for you? Guys like Dexter, Turk McBride, Branden Albert and more.

Dont you think getting a solid vet to stabilize your offense is better than taking a risk for guys like stated above?

[Sorter]

"His third-down Total QBR (33.1) trailed Cassel's (44.5). It's fair to wonder whether Smith will produce as well overall on a weaker team that could face predictable passing situations more frequently. "

[DonTellMeShowMe]

Originally Posted by Namor40

Trade good for all sides: Everybody Wins

From CBS Sports

nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21779979/everybody-wins-in-alex-smith-trade-to-chiefs

Everybody Wins

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

"Word around the NFL" is #Raiders are interested in Geno Smith at the 3rd overall pick, per ESPN's Chris Mortensen: http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8326/geno-smith …