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Old 04-01-2014, 09:56 PM  
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:12 PM   #226
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There's no absolutely NO WAY Eric Berry is as valuable as Jairus Byrd.

He's a solid role player and a standout on a defense with only three players who are more outstanding at their positions than he is at his. Berry had 1 more INT than a broken-down and old Troy Polamalu and was credited with fewer forced fumbles. Hell, the safety opposite Jairus Byrd generated more turnovers. Heck, ED REED had the same number of INTs last season as Berry did last season and he was on two teams!

Any team that signs EB to a big contract is either paying him to play the same role in KC or on the sole potential of him being being the next Ed Reed circa 2006-2008.
The all pro is a solid role player?
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:12 PM   #227
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He also has only played 3 seasons, 1 of which was coming off an acl tear so that's a little unfair
That also lowers his value.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:12 PM   #228
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Exactly.

A safeties job (if he is to earn the mega bucks) is to limit big plays and take the ball away.

I'm sorry, but to this point Berry has displayed the ability to do neither consistently.
Yea he doesn't garner any respect around the leauge being All Pro in his 3rd year.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:14 PM   #229
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That also lowers his value.
How so?

He's shown that he's not injury prone
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:14 PM   #230
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That also lowers his value.
**** no it doesnt. He would break the bank as a FA right now and any idiot that doesn't admit it is just that, an idiot.

You guys will go to the ends of the earth to attempt to back every dumb statement you make.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:15 PM   #231
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**** no it doesnt. He would break the bank as a FA right now and any idiot that doesn't admit it is just that, an idiot.

You guys will go to the ends of the earth to attempt to back every dumb statement you make.
He wouldn't break the bank. Jesus Christ.

He would get about what TJ Ward got at this moment.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:16 PM   #232
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Yea he doesn't garner any respect around the leauge being All Pro in his 3rd year.
career totals

2 forced fumbles
2 recovered fumbles
8 interceptions

Byrd AVERAGES playing a role in 8 turnovers PER YEAR.

Quick question...would you trade Berry for Byrd right now?
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:17 PM   #233
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You chiming in is all the endorsement my opinion needs.
Debate my point beyond trotting out "he's an all pro" or acknowledge the fact you're being a homer who can only respond with ad hominem attacks.

When has he made a crucial play that you can nail down as the turning point en route to a win? Or when has he effectively negated an all-pro caliber receiver in the passing game?
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He wouldn't break the bank. Jesus Christ.

He would get about what TJ Ward got at this moment.
Maybe a little more.

I hate to say it, but I think Ward is a better safety...but Berry has more upside if put into the right position to succeed.
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He wouldn't break the bank. Jesus Christ.

He would get about what TJ Ward got at this moment.
OK if you say so. I change my mind.
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Debate my point beyond trotting out "he's an all pro" or acknowledge the fact you're being a homer who can only respond with ad hominem attacks.

When has he made a crucial play that you can nail down as the turning point en route to a win? Or when has he effectively negated an all-pro caliber receiver in the passing game?
I have read many of your posts and you are an idiot, that's all I need to know.

You are young and dumb.
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OK if you say so. I change my mind.
This is why people think you're the biggest dumbshit on cp. Keep it up.
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Maybe a little more.

I hate to say it, but I think Ward is a better safety...but Berry has more upside if put into the right position to succeed.
You say X and then quantify by saying Z so that you have both bases covered.

Awesome balls man, way to play the field.
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Marcellus seems to think these are his children he is defending.

It's ok to say that a guy with 3x the turnover production provides more impact.

That wouldn't make you a bad fan.

I doubt any team would give Berry the deal Byrd got.
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Maybe a little more.

I hate to say it, but I think Ward is a better safety...but Berry has more upside if put into the right position to succeed.
Wards not even close, in terms of the way and importance they play.
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