Hypothetical: Chip Kelly LOVES Geno Smith

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And what happens if he's gone before #4?

That's when you get into what the Browns GM called the Weeden pick.....a "panicked disaster".

I'm no higher on Wilson than I am Barkley. To me, they are a distant 2A and 2B behind Geno.

If the Chiefs took Barkley, I would be in no way more disappointed than if they took Wilson.

If they aren't taking Geno, then my emotions go way down.

Barkley + #34, #36, and two firsts next year

Wilson + #34, #36, and two firsts next year.

To me, they're the same.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I'm no higher on Wilson than I am Barkley. To me, they are a distant 2A and 2B behind Geno.

If the Chiefs took Barkley, I would be in no way more disappointed than if they took Wilson.

If they aren't taking Geno, then my emotions go way down.

Barkley + #34, #36, and two firsts next year

Wilson + #34, #36, and two firsts next year.

To me, they're the same.

And that's only if they like Barkley. The OP stated that they had Wilson and Smith rated equally.

So.....what happens when you trade down to #4 and Wilson goes #2 or #3? What the **** do we do then? Do we reach for Barkley (if they don't have him rated as high) or do you take a player that you now have to find a spot for?

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And that's only if they like Barkley. The OP stated that they had Wilson and Smith rated equally.

So.....what happens when you trade down to #4 and Wilson goes #2 or #3? What the **** do we do then? Do we reach for Barkley (if they don't have him rated as high) or do you take a player that you now have to find a spot for?

What Nirvana said. The answer was so simple.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

What Nirvana said. The answer was so simple.

It's happened how many times? Once?

And that was only because the Chargers were going to draft Manning whether he wanted to play there or not.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

What Nirvana said. The answer was so simple.

You have a better chance of getting hit by falling space debris than this happening.

The reason the Manning/Rivers trade went down is because the Chargers drafted Manning and he REFUSED TO PLAY THERE. They didn't WANT to trade him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I'm no higher on Wilson than I am Barkley. To me, they are a distant 2A and 2B behind Geno.

If the Chiefs took Barkley, I would be in no way more disappointed than if they took Wilson.

If they aren't taking Geno, then my emotions go way down.

Barkley + #34, #36, and two firsts next year

Wilson + #34, #36, and two firsts next year.

To me, they're the same.

So address the possibility that they're BOTH gone.

Glennon + #34, #36, and two firsts next year.?

NO ****ING WAY.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by O.city

So the chance of missing out on your guy is worth a few extra picks? Do those picks really matter if you miss on your QB?

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So address the possibility that they're BOTH gone.

Glennon + #34, #36, and two firsts next year.?

NO ****ING WAY.

Okay, I will address the possibility...


Ahem...

There is a 0.0001% chance that Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Tyler Wilson are drafted in the first three picks of the 2013 NFL draft.

Now, that is still a possibility, technically, but it is one I am willing to wager against.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Okay, I will address the possibility...


Ahem...

There is a 0.0001% chance that Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Tyler Wilson are drafted in the first three picks of the 2013 NFL draft.

Now, that is still a possibility, technically, but it is one I am willing to wager against.

Fine. But based on the Chiefs previous history, I'm not.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Okay, I will address the possibility...


Ahem...

There is a 0.0001% chance that Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, and Tyler Wilson are drafted in the first three picks of the 2013 NFL draft.

Now, that is still a possibility, technically, but it is one I am willing to wager against.

And that's basically where the disagreement is.

You think it's a virtual impossibility that QBs go 1-2-3.

Most of us don't think it's worth it to wait to find out.

I'm not the wagering type. I'll take the sure thing.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And that's basically where the disagreement is.

You think it's a virtual impossibility that QBs go 1-2-3.

Most of us don't think it's worth it to wait to find out.

I'm not the wagering type. I'll take the sure thing.

Yeah, it's not a wrong answer for sure. I'd prefer to gamble on it, because if Geno isn't the sure-fire guy then I don't think there is one.

But every year there are at least 5 teams that need a new QB. And yet they never ever ever go 1 - 2 - 3.

If it were ever to happen, it would have been last year. I just don't think Barkley is going to give any team enough of a boner to trade up to 2 or 3 for him, and the same goes for Wilson.

Maybe one of them, but I just can't see how both manage to garner that much favor from teams.

EDIT: They do go 1 - 2 - 3. I'm full of shit.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Yeah, it's not a wrong answer for sure. I'd prefer to gamble on it, because if Geno isn't the sure-fire guy then I don't think there is one.

But every year there are at least 5 teams that need a new QB. And yet they never ever ever go 1 - 2 - 3.

If it were ever to happen, it would have been last year. I just don't think Barkley is going to give any team enough of a boner to trade up to 2 or 3 for him, and the same goes for Wilson.

Maybe one of them, but I just can't see how both manage to garner that much favor from teams.

Yeah, true.


The thing for me is that of all the times we've just missed out on one, this is the year there is no excuse, no way we miss out by someone else jumping us etc.


Thats pretty much my reasoning. Yeah, if you can trade down and still get your guy, fine. But I just don't want to risk it, not this year.