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Old 06-13-2023, 12:41 PM  
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Old 06-13-2023, 04:32 PM   #61
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Except Jones is different from all of them. The only player there that is elite was Hill and KC could afford to lose him because of Mahomes. KC should look to lock him up on a 3-4 year contract which should get the final few good years out of him. He is not a RB and I am not sure why 30 is now the point of no return age for all non QBs.
Don’t forget Travis. Things wouldn’t have worked out the same if Travis left/was traded. Probably would’ve looked something like GB last season.


And I don’t get the “he’s over 30; he’s washed/trash” nonsense either.
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Old 06-13-2023, 04:41 PM   #62
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HOF pass rusher in his prime

Doubt they trade that
If he wants Aaron Donald money I think they end up trading him. Hopefully he doesn’t.

Not a lot of guys end up being worth the elite 3rd contracts
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Old 06-13-2023, 05:05 PM   #63
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I absolutely do hope they manage to resign him to a contract that both sides can [obviously] live with.

But I'm not convinced they will.

I keep remembering being told over and over that OBJ had to be resigned and I didn't believe it.

I'm just not sure he will come down.

Mahomes can take a team friendly deal because of endorsements. Other players can't make that up.

I would imagine there are other teams out there that could pay more than KC? Pay more and probably willing to guarantee more years?

The defensive does take a huge hit if he is not resigned. But overpaying a declining star is also a huge hit that has to be worried about.

But I do feel better about Jones being extended than I ever did OBJ.
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Old 06-13-2023, 05:14 PM   #64
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That was beachtribe, the guy had a bad drug addiction
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If he doesn't get an extension soon, I'm going to send the video of his hammer falling out at the combine to the future owner of the Chiefs and she'll take care of that.
If Chris Jones gets an extension, it will throw the Earth off it's axis.


Oh, you mean contract extension.
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Don’t forget Travis. Things wouldn’t have worked out the same if Travis left/was traded. Probably would’ve looked something like GB last season.


And I don’t get the “he’s over 30; he’s washed/trash” nonsense either.
You and your 1 man “Kelce’s gonna get injured” band can **** right off.
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Old 06-13-2023, 05:52 PM   #68
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You and your 1 man “Kelce’s gonna get injured” band can **** right off.


Lol, wth? Reread my post; there's not one word about Kelce getting hurt in it.

Maybe you should get your imaginary gf to read my posts to you. Guaranteed she has a higher IQ than you.
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If he wants Aaron Donald money I think they end up trading him. Hopefully he doesn’t.

Not a lot of guys end up being worth the elite 3rd contracts
He’s 28
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I feel kind of bad for Chris Jones. On almost any other team in the league, he would be the foundational player and everyone else's deal would be working around his. But on this team, he's been the third or fourth guy and we're trying to fit his deal around other players' deals.
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Tyreek was offered $25 million and decided he wanted $30 million APY. That’s a big difference.

Veach’s worst move as a GM was trading for Frank Clark and paying him a huge long-term contract. The last year and a half Veach has drawn a line and didn’t budge. He learned from his mistake.

Tyreek, Juju, Wylie, Frank (we weren’t paying him $5.5 million to come back ) and most recently telling Orlando Brown Jr to **** himself. Veach isn’t overpaying.

Chris Jones is an amazing player, but he also turns 30 after this season. His prime isn’t gonna last much longer. If he demands more than Veach is willing to offer, he’ll be traded.

I hope he takes a short term, team friendly deal. Maybe something like a 3 year deal. We’ll see
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The salary cap in 2020 was only 183m and in 2023, it’s 225. A 23% increase.

Veach signed Jones to a 4 year deal worth 85m 21.25m aav. That means that if all things are equal, I’d HOPE that Chris would agree to a 3 year extension for 26aav.

That would be a total contract of 4/106 with likely 65-70 in total guarantees and around 50 in full guarantees. Hopefully we give him a deal like that in the next month.
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I think you pay him what he wants and tell him as part of that he gets every dollar he wanted to give to Clark. Last year was his best year, I reckon you can expect at least a couple more years of elite play and that's probably worth it. A DT that specialises in getting to the QB sometimes feels hugely undervalued, they're rarer than rocking-horse s**t and Jones, as just that, has single-handedly raised our DL from abject to decent, and now pretty damn competitive.
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Chris Jones isn't good enough to be a foundational player in any team. Dude didn't even have sack in the playoffs until this season. I get what you are saying but let's not get carried away.
Is this a serious post?
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