Alex Smith or Jimmy Garoppolo?

[milkman]

If those are your only choices, would you rather stand pat with Smith or give up a high draft pick for Garoppolo?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am not advocating that the Chiefs actively persue a trade.

I am discussing the potential of making that choice if they are left with the scraps of this QB class.

I have reached my breaking point with Smith, and would rather risk moving forward with Garoppolo, if those were my only options.

We keep "missing" on QBs in the draft because the GMs/coaches we've had are constantly in the middle of trying to make their current traded veteran backup QB work out.

If we're frustrated with Smith, and Mahomes and a lot of other QBs this year aren't to our liking, then let's not **** us over in the longterm just so we can have a mediocre "answer" in the short term.

Andy Reid had a 4-1 record with AJ Feeley in 2001. Jeff Garcia once filled in for half of a season under Andy Reid and damn near looked like an unbeatable all-pro. Andy Reid may not be a QB genius that people claim him to be, but I'll be damned if the guy can't squeeze wins out of shitty QBs. Is there anybody who doubts if Reid could get 8 wins out of Aaron Murray? And that's just if the Chiefs aren't trying hard at all.

If we're done with Smith, then be done with him. Get an asshat like Foles as a stopgap, and find your guy of the future. If it's not this year, then try again next year. But don't spend a 1st and a 4th for Jeanine Garrafalo because you don't like the QB class, and then pass up on a QB in 2018 because you just spent all that draft stock and now a contract extension on the shitty backup.

Stop ****ing trading for veteran backups. It never ****ing works. Don't be afraid to suck at the QB position. Striving for the "best" in a bad situation will always lead to Alex Smiths and Matt Cassels.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by stumppy

The Chiefs don't need a Tom Brady QB to win. If that was the criteria for drafting a QB in the top rounds nobody would draft one. We just an above average QB for this team to be able to compete consistently with every other team.

Im using Tom Brady as a "standard."

If you want to compete with the best, then you need to aim "high!"

One thing I do know about accomplishing something, is that when you set the bar high, the greater the reward you will receive for yourself. That's the mindset this organization needs to employ.

It's like writing a test, if you say to yourself I want a 60% you're not gonna try as hard because your standards are low, and as a result, the less of a reward you will receive for yourself.

On the other hand, if you say, I want to ace the exam and get perfect, you may not achieve perfection, but the reward in return will be great.

Greatness is NOT an accident. It all starts with the proper mindset. Striving for perfection increases a demand for excellence in return. That's what separates doctors from nurses, it's what separates CEOs from regular average joe employees.

FYI, I didn't exactly say the QB has to be Tom Brady like because I was acknowledging that he could be as close to being as good.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by bricks

Im using Tom Brady as a "standard."

If you want to compete with the best, then you need to aim "high!"

One thing I do know about accomplishing something, is that when you set the bar high, the greater the reward you will receive for yourself. That's the mindset this organization needs to employ.

It's like writing a test, if you say to yourself I want a 60% you're not gonna try as hard because your standards are low, and as a result, the less of a reward you will receive for yourself.

On the other hand, if you say, I want to ace the exam and get perfect, you may not achieve perfection, but the reward in return will be great.

Greatness is NOT an accident. It all starts with the proper mindset. Striving for perfection increases a demand for excellence in return. That's what separates doctors from nurses, it's what separates CEOs from regular average joe employees.

FYI, I didn't exactly say the QB has to be Tom Brady like because I was acknowledging that he could be as close to being as good.

I get that. That's what everyone wants.
I'm pretty sure that approach is the reason the Chiefs haven't drafted a 1st round QB since 1983.
It's not like I advocate them taking just anybody. But setting that bar so high has got them dip squat for a franchise QB.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by O.city

and we don't really know what he is

Remember Mallet ?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Yup. What we are seeing on CP is another case of the Geno Smith/Paxton Lynch hype train that is headed for a nose dive off a cliff

Idiot.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by milkman

If, however, he moved up the boards after the combines and workouts,

This is where so many GMs have gotten burnt falling in love with QB leotard gymnastics as opposed to really studying what they are on tape of every game they play.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Who's the last backup QB a team traded for who won a Super Bowl?

Brett Favre? What about before then?

**** no to other team backups. Particularly backups from THAT ****ing team.

I'll **** myself with Smith, thank you very much.

Could have been Gannon had his center not gone AWOL 24hrs before kickoff.

[Reerun_KC]

How about neither?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

This is where so many GMs have gotten burnt falling in love with QB leotard gymnastics as opposed to really studying what they are on tape of every game they play.

If there is any GM in the league who puts his stock solely in the combine, he shouldn't be a GM.

That's absolutely insane.

[Bugeater]

What SNR said.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

What SNR said.

Yep, that sums it up for me pretty well, also.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by bricks

Im using Tom Brady as a "standard."

That's just outright ****ing stupid.

You're using a sure fire Hall of Fame QB that's appearing in his SEVENTH SUPER BOWL tomorrow as the "Standard"?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Could have been Gannon had his center not gone AWOL 24hrs before kickoff.

Gannon's contract ran out with KC, and we let him go to Oakland. He wasn't a trade.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

This is where so many GMs have gotten burnt falling in love with QB leotard gymnastics as opposed to really studying what they are on tape of every game they play.

Really?

Name one.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How about neither?

Best option yet!