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Old 03-24-2015, 04:08 PM  
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Old 03-24-2015, 10:42 PM   #31
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IF they're so indestructible, why don't we just fly in black boxes? Has anyone ever stopped to ask that?
Gallagher asked that question in his standup routine back in the 80s, and it still hasn't been answered. Outrage.
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Old 03-24-2015, 11:50 PM   #32
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475 people died in airplane crashes all year in 2012, in the entire world. Statistically, you can fly in an airplane every day for 123,000 years before you crash and burn.
The average person has 3.5 car accidents during a lifetime.

Their survival rate is 85%.

There are only 2 civilian aircraft "crashes" a month but the mortality rate is above 90%.

People forget that in an automobile you have 100% control of the situation. In an aircraft you have none...
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:18 AM   #34
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The average person has 3.5 car accidents during a lifetime.

Their survival rate is 85%.

There are only 2 civilian aircraft "crashes" a month but the mortality rate is above 90%.

People forget that in an automobile you have 100% control of the situation. In an aircraft you have none...
Most of those civilian crashes are small, privately owned and flown planes. The majority of the rest occur in foreign countries. How many commercial plane crashes occur per month in the USA?

Flying in a commercial airplane from a major airline based in the USA is literally safer than most other things you would do pre and post flight the day of your trip.

I can only imagine the horror of knowing you are in a plane about to crash. I can't imagine much worse. But the chances of that occurring to any of us or anyone we know(no offense if you happen to have lost some one this way, just making a point)is so minute, there would be almost no way to get a tangible percentage.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:24 AM   #35
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People forget that in an automobile you have 100% control of the situation. In an aircraft you have none...
You're not trolling here, right?
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:26 AM   #36
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Most of those civilian crashes are small, privately owned and flown planes. The majority of the rest occur in foreign countries. How many commercial plane crashes occur per month in the USA?

Flying in a commercial airplane from a major airline based in the USA is literally safer than most other things you would do pre and post flight the day of your trip.

I can only imagine the horror of knowing you are in a plane about to crash. I can't imagine much worse. But the chances of that occurring to any of us or anyone we know(no offense if you happen to have lost some one this way, just making a point)is so minute, there would be almost no way to get a tangible percentage.
For me this argument is about the lack of control.

If I (or someone on my roadway) makes a mistake I can correct it.

On a plane if something goes horribly bad it's over. I'm dead.

Hell, more people die every year sitting on recliners than will ever die in plane crashes. That doesn't make recliners unsafe...
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You're not trolling here, right?
No.

What happens ahead of you is out of your control.

You have the ability to see that, respond, and make a decision.
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For me this argument is about the lack of control.

If I (or someone on my roadway) makes a mistake I can correct it.

On a plane if something goes horribly bad it's over. I'm dead.

Hell, more people die every year sitting on recliners than will ever die in plane crashes. That doesn't make recliners unsafe...
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:34 AM   #39
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I'm not getting the reference....
My bad. It's Captain Sullenberger. The dude who landed his plane in the Hudson River and delivered all passengers to safety. You had made reference to if something bad happens on a plane, your dead. I'm saying things go wrong sometimes and the pilots know their shit.

I totally get where your coming from with the lack of control piece. It is a little weird to think that your life is in the hands of some total stranger. I used to be terrified to fly but got over it in part because I realizied that in almost all situations in life, there's an element I can't control. If I'm driving through a green light, and some dumbass drives through the red at 65mph, I'm probably ****ed. So I just try to focus on what I can control in any situation. On a flight that means sit back, eat some peanuts, watch a show and hope the dude flying isn't a methed out crazy dude.
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:54 AM   #41
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My bad. It's Captain Sullenberger. The dude who landed his plane in the Hudson River and delivered all passengers to safety. You had made reference to if something bad happens on a plane, your dead. I'm saying things go wrong sometimes and the pilots know their shit.

I totally get where your coming from with the lack of control piece. It is a little weird to think that your life is in the hands of some total stranger. I used to be terrified to fly but got over it in part because I realizied that in almost all situations in life, there's an element I can't control. If I'm driving through a green light, and some dumbass drives through the red at 65mph, I'm probably ****ed. So I just try to focus on what I can control in any situation. On a flight that means sit back, eat some peanuts, watch a show and hope the dude flying isn't a methed out crazy dude.
I have ADD and OCD.

You wouldn't know it by talking to me on here but you can see it if you know what to look for.

I imbibe libations quite a bit but my waking days are methodically, and neurotically, spent decreasing risk to the point it's obsessive.
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I have ADD and OCD.

You wouldn't know it by talking to me on here but you can see it if you know what to look for.

I imbibe libations quite a bit but my waking days are methodically, and neurotically, spent decreasing risk to the point it's obsessive.
Sorry to hear that. I hope you are seeking some proper solutions.
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Sorry to hear that. I hope you are seeking some proper solutions.
I travel like Madden use to and it helps...
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That's good. I think a big ol' bus or an RV might be the safest of the bunch
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That's good. I think a big ol' bus or an RV might be the safest of the bunch
NEVER travel by bus.

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