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Old 11-17-2017, 08:24 PM  
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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***
It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine?

2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen?

Pending Free Agents:
1B | Eric Hosmer | San Diego Padres, 8 years, $144 million ($5 million signing bonus; $20 million/year in Yrs 1-5; $13 million/year in Yrs 6-8 wth player opt out)
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3B | Mike Moustaskas | Kansas City Royas, 1, $6.5 million
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CF | Lorenzo Cain | Milwaukee Brewers, 5 years, $80 million
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RP | Mike Minor | Texas Rangers, 3, $28 million
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SP | Jason Vargas | New York Mets, 2, $16 million
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SS | Alcides Escobar | Kansas City Royals, 1, $2.5 million
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2018 MLB Draft Picks
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#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

Comp picks explanation:
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2018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.
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Old 12-18-2017, 10:26 PM   #346
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if the Padres sign Hosmer what do they do with Myers, move him back to the OF where he will get hurt?
I think Myers as already said he would play outfield.
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Old 12-18-2017, 10:28 PM   #347
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I think Myers as already said he would play outfield.
Uh, I'm sure Kendrys Morales would have played outfield in the World Series.

But those are two men who should not go anywhere near RF.
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Old 12-18-2017, 10:30 PM   #348
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Uh, I'm sure Kendrys Morales would have played outfield in the World Series.

But those are two men who should not go anywhere near RF.
Not saying it's the best idea. Just saying what I heard. Don't shoot the messenger lol
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:23 PM   #349
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Not saying it's the best idea. Just saying what I heard. Don't shoot the messenger lol
Oh yeah, I wasn't meaning to be a **** to you. I'm just a little less than impressed with the Padres if that's their plan.

Ah well, it's called Padresing for a reason.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:39 PM   #350
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:43 PM   #351
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He's a complete jackass if he sells out to go rebuild with the freaking Padres.

I could understand leaving for the Red Sox or Yankees, but that just ain't acceptable. A real human being would see that there is/was something special here that you don't often find, not to mention all his close friends, and that isn't worth leaving behind for a few extra million in your pocket.
They do have nice weather.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:49 PM   #352
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He'll have close friends if he stays in KC, but the question is how many?

Salvy is the only near-guarantee for hanging around longterm. Well, and I guess Gordon as well only because of his awful contract. Esky, Cain, and Moose are all free agents. The only remainders from the pitching staff that took them to the WS are Duffy and Herrera, both of whom are getting talked about as trade. And even a solid dependable young and cheap player that any team could win a WS with as a starter in Whit Merrifield is getting put through the rumor mill.
Hosmer-Moose combo deal.
Dayton and Boras...make it happen.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:51 PM   #353
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Sounds about right. Seems like he'd be crazy to do that.
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Old 12-19-2017, 06:44 AM   #354
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If I'm not mistaken, California taxes really stick it to pro athletes who make millions of dollars. Maybe one of the accounts on this board can figure out the difference in taxes if the Royals and Padres offered Hosmer the same deal. He might actually be better off by taking less money to play in Missouri.
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If I'm not mistaken, California taxes really stick it to pro athletes who make millions of dollars. Maybe one of the accounts on this board can figure out the difference in taxes if the Royals and Padres offered Hosmer the same deal. He might actually be better off by taking less money to play in Missouri.
I am pretty sure you get taxed based on where you played your game, so it would be very hard to figure that number out
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Old 12-19-2017, 07:12 AM   #356
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I am pretty sure you get taxed based on where you played your game, so it would be very hard to figure that number out
Yep, it'd be different per team\schedule. Good on the person that wants to tackle that shitache. But to keep it simple, could just compare the 81 home games difference.
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:51 AM   #358
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I am pretty sure you get taxed based on where you played your game, so it would be very hard to figure that number out
It'd be pretty easy to do the home portion of the split, though. Plus, any bonus money would be considered home state (his team). So you could just say, hypothetically, that roughly 66% of his contract earnings are home state earnings

Cali - 12.3%

Missouri - 5.9% (2018, dropping to 5.5% by 2022)
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Let's just say his taxable income is $20,000,000/yr.

CA tax: $1,640,000/yr (20mil x 2/3 x 12.3%)

MO tax: $786,667/yr

I mean it's some significant tax savings, but only roughly $850K per year over the life of that contract. It's not like we're comparing playing in CA vs FL/TX (no tax)
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