Chiefs Chiefs draft needs, according to Rotoworld (Evan Silva & Josh Norris) - Page 3

ct · 04-23-2014, 10:08 AM

Didn't see this posted anywhere, at least not on it's own.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-needs-chiefs

No. 1 Team Need: Offensive Line

Silva's analysis

Left tackle Branden Albert, right guard Geoff Schwartz, and top interior reserve Jon Asamoah all left in free agency. Left guard Jeff Allen struggled mightily for a second straight season, while C Rodney Hudson is entering a contract year. 2013 No. 1 overall pick Eric Fisher was a letdown as a rookie, and swing tackle Donald Stephenson is best suited for a backup role. Beyond Fisher, the Chiefs have little settled long term on their offensive line. They may use multiple draft picks here.

Norris' options

First day option: G Xavier Su’a-Filo, UCLA - The top pure guard in this class, Su’a-Filo is extremely agile for an interior offensive lineman. He easily gets to the second level and can reach laterally when needing to seal off opponents. Despite his pear shape, Su’a-Filo is an extremely strong and aggressive blocker. He is always looking for an uncovered defender when left open at the snap.

Second day possibility: G Dakota Dozier, Furman - Dozier is another prospect making the move from left tackle to guard, but he looked very comfortable in tight spaces at the East West Shrine Game and when covered by a tight end at Furman. He can bend at the knees to absorb in pass protection or drive block with an athletic lower half.

Third day flier: C Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma - Ikard will struggle to hold up against face up nose tackles at this point in his development, but he is a move center with mobility. His game is all about reaching and getting in front of defensive linemen or linebackers. Ikard is an occupier.

No. 2 Team Need: Safety

Silva's analysis

The Chiefs predictably let incumbent FS Kendrick Lewis leave without a fight, and salary-cap constraints prevented them from replacing him before the draft. Converted cornerback Sanders Commings is currently penciled in at free safety. It's a position at which Kansas City figures to use a high draft pick, perhaps as early as No. 23 overall. As SS Eric Berry is at his best playing close to the line of scrimmage, Bob Sutton's defense could use a rangy safety to roam center field.

Norris' options

First day option: Jimmie Ward, NIU - I think I have mentioned Ward more often than any other prospect in these previews, but for good reason. After Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Ward is the next best safety in this class, but could be the third one selected. Ward played man coverage at the line of scrimmage, in the box and in the deeper portions of the field. He has some Kenny Vaccaro in his game.

Second day possibility: Brock Vereen, Minnesota - There just are not enough true free safeties in this class. Vereen has played more in the box and in man coverage as a nickel corner. Many teams are moving towards three safeties in nickel situations rather than three corners. Vereen can fill this role.

Third day flier: Ed Reynolds, Stanford - Reynolds is at his best keeping the pass and the run in front of him. He loses ground when opening his hips and transitioning. He can read the quarterback’s eyes in the hopes of getting a jump on the intended target.

No. 3 Team Need: Wide Receiver

Silva's analysis

The Chiefs were the only team in the NFL in 2013 whose tailback led them in targets, catches, receiving yards, and touchdowns. Andy Reid deserves a lot of credit for expanding Alex Smith's willingness to pull the trigger over the course of the season, but Smith won't continue his growth without better weapons. Kansas City also lost Dexter McCluster's 53 receptions in free agency.

Norris' options

First day option: Marqise Lee, USC - Lee had a down 2013, specifically due to a drop rate of over 12 percent. He was mainly used on inside and outside breaking routes in the short to intermediate levels of the field. This is where Alex Smith is at his best. Lee is a fluid mover with body control, which allows him to separate on the ground or create a sliver of space when adjusting for the catch.

Second day possibility: Jarvis Landry, LSU - Landry is a thick slot receiver who wins with little wasted movement, timing and the best hands in this draft. He’s not a straight-line speedster, but Landry would help Smith in the short and intermediate levels. He can also win in contested situations.

Third day flier: Michael Campanaro, Wake Forest - You all might think I’m stereotyping, but Campanaro does his best work in the slot. With that said, he did flash a few vertical catches.

Chiefs 2014 Draft Picks (6)

First Round (No. 23)
Third Round (No. 87)
Fourth Round (No. 124)
Fifth Round (No. 163)
Sixth Round (No. 193)
Sixth Round (No. 200)

Current Chiefs First-Team Offense

QB: Alex Smith
RB: Jamaal Charles
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Donnie Avery
TE: Anthony Fasano
TE: Travis Kelce
LT: Eric Fisher
LG: Jeff Allen
C: Rodney Hudson
RG: Rishaw Johnson
RT: Donald Stephenson

Current Chiefs First-Team Defense

RE: Vance Walker
LE: Mike DeVito
NT: Dontari Poe
ILB: Derrick Johnson
ILB: Joe Mays
OLB: Tamba Hali
OLB: Justin Houston
LCB: Brandon Flowers
RCB: Sean Smith
FS: Sanders Commings
SS: Eric Berry

Also a video embedded for our #1 OLine need

For analysis of other teams
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...t-team-by-team

Mr. Plow · 04-23-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Please no lineman in the first

Plan on it.

Coochie liquor · 04-23-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

If Marqise Lee dropped 12% of his passes last year in college, I don't want him. Please choose a different WR.

This!! We had enough receivers who can't catch the ball consistently!!

keg in kc · 04-23-2014, 01:48 PM

I think Lee would be a perfect fit for the Chiefs, coming into a system predicated around YAC and a situation where there's an established #1 to pull coverage away from him. He could conceivably do huge things here and I wouldn't bat an eyelash at taking him late in the first, whatever his drop rate was last year.

**srvy** · 04-23-2014, 01:48 PM

We couldnt win a playoff game when we had arguably the best O-line in history. So hell ya lets load up on guards in the draft. I'm in!

FlaChief58 · 04-23-2014, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Yeah, this

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-23-2014, 02:01 PM

I'm still pissed they pushed the draft back this year going forward.

Would we not be holding the 1st round tomorrow night if it was still held at it's usual date in April.?

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-23-2014, 02:05 PM

I think the San Diego game served as a big notice for them with respect to guys they would let walk vs pay and knowing or feeling comfortable by a cheaper replacement being able to give you roughly equal level of play.

**Rausch** · 04-23-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I'm still pissed they pushed the draft back this year going forward.

Would we not be holding the 1st round tomorrow night if it was still held at it's usual date in April.?

I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd week in April last year.

I take off the week of the draft every year.

I'm not sure why - It always just pisses me off...

**Rausch** · 04-23-2014, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I think the San Diego game served as a big notice for them with respect to guys they would let walk vs pay and knowing or feeling comfortable by a cheaper replacement being able to give you roughly equal level of play.

A one game sample size is not enough...

TEX · 04-23-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

A one game sample size is not enough...

Ive been saying that all off season. Its kinda like when a player kicks ass at the combine and gets drafted higher than he should. Far too many questions have been created on the OL for them all to work out. KC is likely going to struggle.

**Easy 6** · 04-23-2014, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think Lee would be a perfect fit for the Chiefs, coming into a system predicated around YAC and a situation where there's an established #1 to pull coverage away from him. He could conceivably do huge things here and I wouldn't bat an eyelash at taking him late in the first, whatever his drop rate was last year.

While I would prefer Cooks, I'd be damn glad to get Lee or any of the other top 5-6 guys... just get someone.

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-23-2014, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

A one game sample size is not enough...

Not in disagreement, but I don't make the call(s).

keg in kc · 04-23-2014, 03:02 PM

They also had last offseason/camp, the preseason games and practices through all of last year to assess those guys. The SD game was basically a full-speed live game audition that both players and staff don't usually have the benefit of having.

I'm still not sure where the perception that the team "lost" a whole lot is coming from. The players that left were either bit players and or guys playing roles that should be relatively easy to fill. Hell, they may actually improve for all we know, although apparently it's set in stone that there's going to be some massive decline because they lost a bunch of jags.

crossbow · 04-23-2014, 03:19 PM

No D lineman? Ha! Can't take this article seriously then. He does realize he is talking about the Chiefs, right?

04-23-2014, 10:08 AM
ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	Chiefs draft needs, according to Rotoworld (Evan Silva & Josh Norris) Didn't see this posted anywhere, at least not on it's own. http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-needs-chiefs No. 1 Team Need: Offensive Line Silva's analysis Left tackle Branden Albert, right guard Geoff Schwartz, and top interior reserve Jon Asamoah all left in free agency. Left guard Jeff Allen struggled mightily for a second straight season, while C Rodney Hudson is entering a contract year. 2013 No. 1 overall pick Eric Fisher was a letdown as a rookie, and swing tackle Donald Stephenson is best suited for a backup role. Beyond Fisher, the Chiefs have little settled long term on their offensive line. They may use multiple draft picks here. Norris' options First day option: G Xavier Su’a-Filo, UCLA - The top pure guard in this class, Su’a-Filo is extremely agile for an interior offensive lineman. He easily gets to the second level and can reach laterally when needing to seal off opponents. Despite his pear shape, Su’a-Filo is an extremely strong and aggressive blocker. He is always looking for an uncovered defender when left open at the snap. Second day possibility: G Dakota Dozier, Furman - Dozier is another prospect making the move from left tackle to guard, but he looked very comfortable in tight spaces at the East West Shrine Game and when covered by a tight end at Furman. He can bend at the knees to absorb in pass protection or drive block with an athletic lower half. Third day flier: C Gabe Ikard, Oklahoma - Ikard will struggle to hold up against face up nose tackles at this point in his development, but he is a move center with mobility. His game is all about reaching and getting in front of defensive linemen or linebackers. Ikard is an occupier. No. 2 Team Need: Safety Silva's analysis The Chiefs predictably let incumbent FS Kendrick Lewis leave without a fight, and salary-cap constraints prevented them from replacing him before the draft. Converted cornerback Sanders Commings is currently penciled in at free safety. It's a position at which Kansas City figures to use a high draft pick, perhaps as early as No. 23 overall. As SS Eric Berry is at his best playing close to the line of scrimmage, Bob Sutton's defense could use a rangy safety to roam center field. Norris' options First day option: Jimmie Ward, NIU - I think I have mentioned Ward more often than any other prospect in these previews, but for good reason. After Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Ward is the next best safety in this class, but could be the third one selected. Ward played man coverage at the line of scrimmage, in the box and in the deeper portions of the field. He has some Kenny Vaccaro in his game. Second day possibility: Brock Vereen, Minnesota - There just are not enough true free safeties in this class. Vereen has played more in the box and in man coverage as a nickel corner. Many teams are moving towards three safeties in nickel situations rather than three corners. Vereen can fill this role. Third day flier: Ed Reynolds, Stanford - Reynolds is at his best keeping the pass and the run in front of him. He loses ground when opening his hips and transitioning. He can read the quarterback’s eyes in the hopes of getting a jump on the intended target. No. 3 Team Need: Wide Receiver Silva's analysis The Chiefs were the only team in the NFL in 2013 whose tailback led them in targets, catches, receiving yards, and touchdowns. Andy Reid deserves a lot of credit for expanding Alex Smith's willingness to pull the trigger over the course of the season, but Smith won't continue his growth without better weapons. Kansas City also lost Dexter McCluster's 53 receptions in free agency. Norris' options First day option: Marqise Lee, USC - Lee had a down 2013, specifically due to a drop rate of over 12 percent. He was mainly used on inside and outside breaking routes in the short to intermediate levels of the field. This is where Alex Smith is at his best. Lee is a fluid mover with body control, which allows him to separate on the ground or create a sliver of space when adjusting for the catch. Second day possibility: Jarvis Landry, LSU - Landry is a thick slot receiver who wins with little wasted movement, timing and the best hands in this draft. He’s not a straight-line speedster, but Landry would help Smith in the short and intermediate levels. He can also win in contested situations. Third day flier: Michael Campanaro, Wake Forest - You all might think I’m stereotyping, but Campanaro does his best work in the slot. With that said, he did flash a few vertical catches. Chiefs 2014 Draft Picks (6) First Round (No. 23) Third Round (No. 87) Fourth Round (No. 124) Fifth Round (No. 163) Sixth Round (No. 193) Sixth Round (No. 200) Current Chiefs First-Team Offense QB: Alex Smith RB: Jamaal Charles WR: Dwayne Bowe WR: Donnie Avery TE: Anthony Fasano TE: Travis Kelce LT: Eric Fisher LG: Jeff Allen C: Rodney Hudson RG: Rishaw Johnson RT: Donald Stephenson Current Chiefs First-Team Defense RE: Vance Walker LE: Mike DeVito NT: Dontari Poe ILB: Derrick Johnson ILB: Joe Mays OLB: Tamba Hali OLB: Justin Houston LCB: Brandon Flowers RCB: Sean Smith FS: Sanders Commings SS: Eric Berry Also a video embedded for our #1 OLine need For analysis of other teams http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...t-team-by-team
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04-23-2014, 01:48 PM	#33
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04-23-2014, 01:48 PM	#34
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04-23-2014, 02:01 PM	#36
Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9689340	I'm still pissed they pushed the draft back this year going forward. Would we not be holding the 1st round tomorrow night if it was still held at it's usual date in April.? __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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04-23-2014, 02:05 PM	#37
Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9689340	I think the San Diego game served as a big notice for them with respect to guys they would let walk vs pay and knowing or feeling comfortable by a cheaper replacement being able to give you roughly equal level of play. __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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04-23-2014, 03:02 PM	#43
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	They also had last offseason/camp, the preseason games and practices through all of last year to assess those guys. The SD game was basically a full-speed live game audition that both players and staff don't usually have the benefit of having. I'm still not sure where the perception that the team "lost" a whole lot is coming from. The players that left were either bit players and or guys playing roles that should be relatively easy to fill. Hell, they may actually improve for all we know, although apparently it's set in stone that there's going to be some massive decline because they lost a bunch of jags.
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