If Teddy Bridgewater really does fall, do you draft him?

[Mr. Laz]

I'm seeing rumors that Bridgewater is falling like a rock. He might even slip into the 2nd round.

You are making the Chiefs selection at #23 and Teddy Bridgewater has fallen, do you pick him?

[greatgooglymoogly]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Nice job, Captain Hindsight.

I'll use the Bears as an example. They already had a pretty good RB in Thomas Jones, and they were running Rex Grossman out there every week. Now, Grossman had already suffered one season ending injury, and the 2004 campaign proved the Bears had no QB depth whatsoever, so did they draft the best QB available? No, they drafted the running back.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

since I don't want to look that draft up, what other QBs were available in that draft?

Matt Cassel.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

since I don't want to look that draft up, what other QBs were available in that draft?

Jason Campbell was the other QB drafted in the first round that year. 3 of the first 5 picks were RBs.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

I'll use the Bears as an example. They already had a pretty good RB in Thomas Jones, and they were running Rex Grossman out there every week. Now, Grossman had already suffered one season ending injury, and the 2004 campaign proved the Bears had no QB depth whatsoever, so did they draft the best QB available? No, they drafted the running back.

Worked out pretty well for them and their SB win.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Worked out pretty well for them and their SB win.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Worked out pretty well for them and their SB win.

Yes, the Bears made the playoffs in '05 and won the NFC in '06 because the RB they already had went for over 2,500 yards and they had two of the decade's best defenses. Too bad they had to run Grossman out there in that Super Bowl.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

Yes, the Bears made the playoffs in '05 and won the NFC in '06 because the RB they already had went for over 2,500 yards and they had two of the decade's best defenses. Too bad they had to run Grossman out there in that Super Bowl.

That is too bad.

I guess it must be a better idea to target a QB.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Originally Posted by jd1020

That is too bad.

I guess it must be a better idea to target a QB.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. This isn't 2005, though, so if a QB like Bridgewater, who was being talked about all of last year as a possible #1 overall falls into the second round, then something is up. It isn't because however many teams are drafting in the first round this year wanted to "fill needs".

[planetdoc]

Here is a stat comparison of most draft eligible qbs between 2011-2014

I started a thread about it in draft planet.

Bridgewater is 3-0 in college against top 10 defenses. Only other qb @ 100% was Cam Newton. Next best was AJ McCarron at 3-2 with a stacked team.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. This isn't 2005, though, so if a QB like Bridgewater, who was being talked about all of last year as a possible #1 overall falls into the second round, then something is up. It isn't because however many teams are drafting in the first round this year wanted to "fill needs".

Kinda like how Rodgers was being talked about as going #1 and fell like a rock. Something was definitely wrong with that guy. Just compare his success to the guy who went #1. Not even close. Clearly the guy that went #1 has been better.

Lets just play it safe and follow Sacc's model of success and draft a ****ing guard.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. This isn't 2005, though, so if a QB like Bridgewater, who was being talked about all of last year as a possible #1 overall falls into the second round, then something is up. It isn't because however many teams are drafting in the first round this year wanted to "fill needs".

Yeah....it couldn't be because some GMs are just ****ing stupid as hell either. It has to all be on the QB.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Kinda like how Rodgers was being talked about as going #1 and fell like a rock. Something was definitely wrong with that guy. Just compare his success to the guy who went #1. Not even close. Clearly the guy that went #1 has been better.

Way to miss my point. Drafting strategies and game philosophies were different in 2005. The old "hard-hitting defense and a high-production running back" system was still prevalent because the Ravens and Buccaneers had won Super Bowls that way in the recent past.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

Way to miss my point. Drafting strategies and game philosophies were different in 2005. The old "hard-hitting defense and a high-production running back" system was still prevalent because the Ravens and Buccaneers had won Super Bowls that way in the recent past.

You are reeruned if you think that teams have just now decided that the QB position is important.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly

Jason Campbell was the other QB drafted in the first round that year. 3 of the first 5 picks were RBs.

so this draft appears a lot deeper for QBs than the one Smith was drafted in.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You are reeruned if you think that teams have just now decided that the QB position is important.

It wasn't viewed as being as important back then, though. I mean, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won Super Bowls. There was a blueprint in place, so some teams decided to try to go that direction. Once they discovered that was extremely difficult to pull off, the NFL started going the other way.

The league is not immune to trends, and the current trend is to get that franchise QB by any means necessary. Bridgewater has been thought of as a possible franchise QB since January 2013. Given what we know, he should be picked very early. However, there may be information we don't know that lowered his draft stock.