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Old 11-04-2013, 05:32 PM  
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****Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread ****

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?
  • This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
  • Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.

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Old 04-08-2014, 07:19 PM   #481
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Craig has very little trade value. Remember that he's making about 7-8 mil/year, and he's a minus defender. He's also one of the few guys on the roster capable of 20+HR, which this team desperately needs.

It's also been seven games. If he hit .110 in a week-long stetch in mid July, does anyone give much of a damn?
He just doesn't have a position. And with Tavares and Adams potential, seems he'd be a prime move candidate.

With that contract though, it's not likely
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:24 PM   #482
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He just doesn't have a position. And with Tavares and Adams potential, seems he'd be a prime move candidate.

With that contract though, it's not likely
I actually just looked up the details of that contract. Of the $43 million in the total deal, 33 is in the last three years, and the final year can be bought out for $1 million. He's only making $2.8 this year. That makes him more movable, but it's also below market value.

You also have to consider what you'd get back, what problems you may have with the development of Taveras and Piscotty, how Holliday will decline, and if Adams will ever be able to hit LHP.
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I actually just looked up the details of that contract. Of the $43 million in the total deal, 33 is in the last three years, and the final year can be bought out for $1 million. He's only making $2.8 this year. That makes him more movable, but it's also below market value.

You also have to consider what you'd get back, what problems you may have with the development of Taveras and Piscotty, how Holliday will decline, and if Adams will ever be able to hit LHP.
I don't think you move him this year, now, if you are to move him, to many unknowns.

I'm not sure he'd be viewed as valuable in a trade as he is to the cardinals.
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Damn, good looking inning went to pot there.

Two hard hit balls lead to outs
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At what point in the year do you look at piscotty,Tavares, or grichuk to come up and provide something off the bench?

September?
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Damn, good looking inning went to pot there.

Two hard hit balls lead to outs
Yes, but think about how hard those balls were hit compared to our everyday CF and SS last year.
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Yes, but think about how hard those balls were hit compared to our everyday CF and SS last year.
Yeah

Seems Peralta has had some back luck early this year. I'm to laY to look, but I'd imagine his babip is pretty low
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We cannot ever get mosorocca out.

I bet that ****er hits .400 against us
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At what point in the year do you look at piscotty,Tavares, or grichuk to come up and provide something off the bench?

September?
No real point to start the clock on Piscotty this year unless two of Adams, Holliday, and Craig go down simultaneously. September call-up and bench bat in the PS? Possibly. Grichuk has all of six games in at Memphis. Too soon to know. Oscar is still young, but probably the least mature.
It wouldn't surprise me if none of them come up pre-September, barring injuries.

Also, terrible managing by the Reds there. Mesoraco is not a fast runner, and with the pitcher up you can move him over to third with the ultra fast Hamilton at the plate. Hamilton could hit a squibber and still leg it out. Instead, now he needs a legit base hit to have a chance to score the run.
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I don't figure any of the 3 would be up before September barring injury. No point really. I'm anxious to see how fast they move along the left handed pitchers recently drafted.
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We really need Shelby to further turn the corner this year.

Good to see Wong off to a good start
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****. I think Yadi could have beaten that out.
3rd baseman lays on it, throws it to second, Phillips dances around the bag, still gets Craig by a step
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