Chiefs Chiefs got better times ahead in the next 3 seasons??? - Page 2

Chief Roundup · 07-19-2016, 01:59 PM

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-three-seasons

In their three seasons under coach Andy Reid, the Kansas City Chiefs haven’t won a division title, but they’ve been an annual playoff contender, reaching the postseason twice as a wild-card entrant. They haven’t been able to advance in the postseason beyond the divisional round.

This interesting post suggests that for the foreseeable future, the next three seasons, the Chiefs are headed for more of the same.

ESPN ranked the prospects for each of the NFL’s 32 teams over the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons based on several factors, including the quality of the overall roster, quarterback, coaching, the draft, and the front office. The Chiefs are a respectable 11th, their strength according to this ranking being Reid’s coaching ability.

Eleventh doesn’t sound bad, but it doesn’t represent an improvement over what the Chiefs have been over the past three seasons. In the future rankings, the Chiefs are second in the AFC West behind the No. 9 Denver Broncos and sixth overall in the AFC.

That should sound familiar. The Chiefs have finished second to the Broncos in their division in each of Reid’s three seasons. They’ve been the fifth seed in the playoffs in each of their two postseason appearances.

Those Chiefs fans with long memories may not think of this pattern as being stuck in a rut. The Chiefs, after all, won no more than four games in four of the six seasons previous to Reid’s arrival, so these are prosperous times for Kansas City’s NFL team, relatively speaking.

Ultimately, though, they haven’t been fulfilling. And if the Chiefs follow up in the next three seasons with more of the same, even the most patient of their fans might come to think Kansas City was definitely stuck in a rut with Andy Reid as the head coach.

O.city · 07-19-2016, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

I get that. My point is, this article is somehow even more pointless than those rankings. How the **** can you rank for 3 years down the line?

He could've summarized this in a tweet, but he's Teicher so he has to go all doom and gloom for no apparent reason.

Basically he's saying, if the next 3 years go like the last 3, it would be kind of a meh tenure. Or atleast thats what I took it as.

stevieray · 07-19-2016, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

1 playoff win to show for it.

as opposed to the previous 20 years or so?

I'LL TAKE IT.

**DaneMcCloud** · 07-19-2016, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

And in said seasons, still have failed to win the division and have 1 playoff win to show for it.

It's also safe to say that the Broncos were ahead of the Chiefs when Reid and Dorsey took over and have been to two Super Bowls during that time period.

The fact that the Chiefs were able to go from 2-14 to 11-5, 9-7, 11-5 and a playoff win is pretty damn impressive.

RunKC · 07-19-2016, 04:35 PM

Chiefs have gotten better and better every year during this regime.

An AFCW division winner+1 playoff win is the floor for this season.

staylor26 · 07-19-2016, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

And in said seasons, still have failed to win the division and have 1 playoff win to show for it.

I love how everybody went from acting like winning a playoff game was a near impossible task, and something we needed to finally do to truly get over the hump, but now that we've done it, it all of a sudden means absolutely nothing.

I get that it's championship or bust now, but it's pretty spoiled of you to act as though that wasn't a huge step forward in the right direction. Not to mention the way this team battled in NE despite all the injuries. Any other recent Chiefs team would've been completely embarrassed in that game with those conditions, but we faught and somehow had a legitimate shot at winning it.

O.city · 07-19-2016, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's also safe to say that the Broncos were ahead of the Chiefs when Reid and Dorsey took over and have been to two Super Bowls during that time period.

The fact that the Chiefs were able to go from 2-14 to 11-5, 9-7, 11-5 and a playoff win is pretty damn impressive.

Absolutely.

O.city · 07-19-2016, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

I love how everybody went from acting like winning a playoff game was a near impossible task, and something we needed to finally do to truly get over the hump, but now that we've done it, it all of a sudden means absolutely nothing.

I get that it's championship or bust now, but it's pretty spoiled of you to act as though that wasn't a huge step forward in the right direction. Not to mention the way this team battled in NE despite all the injuries. Any other recent Chiefs team would've been completely embarrassed in that game with those conditions, but we faught and somehow had a legitimate shot at winning it.

I don't remember alot of that being said, but they're right on the track they need to be.

But as his stating here, if the next 3 years look like the last 3 have, it'll be a failure

O.city · 07-19-2016, 04:44 PM

And point me to where I'm acting as if that wasn't a step in the right direction?

Kman34 · 07-19-2016, 04:45 PM

If any thing we are ascending....We beat Denver at Denver ....should have beat them at home.... then.....won a road playoff game... Without a proven QB Denver is second place team to me...

staylor26 · 07-19-2016, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Basically he's saying, if the next 3 years go like the last 3, it would be kind of a meh tenure. Or atleast thats what I took it as.

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

And point me to where I'm acting as if that wasn't a step in the right direction?

The way you talk about "the last 3", certainly sounds like that. By "last 3", you clearly don't mean continuing to ascend, which is exactly what we've done.

O.city · 07-19-2016, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26

The way you talk about "the last 3", certainly sounds like that.

If the next 3 years are a carbon copy of the last 3, would you say it's been a successful tenure?

6 years with 2 playoff wins and 0 division titles would be a blah time.

staylor26 · 07-19-2016, 04:50 PM

I'm just going to assume you mean finishing our season with a loss, and if that's the case I agree.

Why Teicher fails to acknowledge the steps we've taken is my initial point though. He's pretending like none of that has happened, and there's no reason to be optimistic.

A good beat writer would at least give that side of the argument.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-19-2016, 04:56 PM

Stopped reading at behind Denver

staylor26 · 07-19-2016, 04:58 PM

I just flat out can't stand Teicher. I don't know how many of you saw it, but at the beginning of the offseason he was questioning Dorsey and basically said "So, you've had some pretty good offseasons since you've been here, but everything is lining up for you to fail this time." (Howard and Smith leaving, losing our 3rd).

What does Dorsey go on to do? Have another really good offseason by getting Howard back on a great deal and picking up Schwartz with some of the money he saved by not signing Smith (on another great deal). Then he makes the moves in the draft to get back the value he lost with the tampering charges while adding a really nice chunk of talent to the roster.

And here Teicher is still waiting for everything to collapse with his doom and gloom bullshit. He's a ****ing joke and clearly has a negative bias in the mold of Clay.

**Easy 6** · 07-19-2016, 04:58 PM

I have a litany of valid reasons why this team could win it all in the next three seasons... why hasnt Teicher moved on to another beat all of these years later, does no one else want him?

07-19-2016, 01:59 PM
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $1881627	Chiefs got better times ahead in the next 3 seasons??? http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-three-seasons In their three seasons under coach Andy Reid, the Kansas City Chiefs haven’t won a division title, but they’ve been an annual playoff contender, reaching the postseason twice as a wild-card entrant. They haven’t been able to advance in the postseason beyond the divisional round. This interesting post suggests that for the foreseeable future, the next three seasons, the Chiefs are headed for more of the same. ESPN ranked the prospects for each of the NFL’s 32 teams over the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons based on several factors, including the quality of the overall roster, quarterback, coaching, the draft, and the front office. The Chiefs are a respectable 11th, their strength according to this ranking being Reid’s coaching ability. Eleventh doesn’t sound bad, but it doesn’t represent an improvement over what the Chiefs have been over the past three seasons. In the future rankings, the Chiefs are second in the AFC West behind the No. 9 Denver Broncos and sixth overall in the AFC. That should sound familiar. The Chiefs have finished second to the Broncos in their division in each of Reid’s three seasons. They’ve been the fifth seed in the playoffs in each of their two postseason appearances. Those Chiefs fans with long memories may not think of this pattern as being stuck in a rut. The Chiefs, after all, won no more than four games in four of the six seasons previous to Reid’s arrival, so these are prosperous times for Kansas City’s NFL team, relatively speaking. Ultimately, though, they haven’t been fulfilling. And if the Chiefs follow up in the next three seasons with more of the same, even the most patient of their fans might come to think Kansas City was definitely stuck in a rut with Andy Reid as the head coach.
Posts: 19,225

07-19-2016, 04:35 PM	#19
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2069611	Chiefs have gotten better and better every year during this regime. An AFCW division winner+1 playoff win is the floor for this season. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
Posts: 46,262

07-19-2016, 04:44 PM	#23
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2574064	And point me to where I'm acting as if that wasn't a step in the right direction?
Posts: 81,399

07-19-2016, 04:45 PM	#24
Kman34 My Mamma Says Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Glass Cage Of Emotion Casino cash: $1791786 VARSITY	If any thing we are ascending....We beat Denver at Denver ....should have beat them at home.... then.....won a road playoff game... Without a proven QB Denver is second place team to me...
Posts: 13,943

07-19-2016, 04:50 PM	#27
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1609040	I'm just going to assume you mean finishing our season with a loss, and if that's the case I agree. Why Teicher fails to acknowledge the steps we've taken is my initial point though. He's pretending like none of that has happened, and there's no reason to be optimistic. A good beat writer would at least give that side of the argument.
Posts: 48,913

07-19-2016, 04:56 PM	#28
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3798880	Stopped reading at behind Denver __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
Posts: 68,787

07-19-2016, 04:58 PM	#29
staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1609040	I just flat out can't stand Teicher. I don't know how many of you saw it, but at the beginning of the offseason he was questioning Dorsey and basically said "So, you've had some pretty good offseasons since you've been here, but everything is lining up for you to fail this time." (Howard and Smith leaving, losing our 3rd). What does Dorsey go on to do? Have another really good offseason by getting Howard back on a great deal and picking up Schwartz with some of the money he saved by not signing Smith (on another great deal). Then he makes the moves in the draft to get back the value he lost with the tampering charges while adding a really nice chunk of talent to the roster. And here Teicher is still waiting for everything to collapse with his doom and gloom bullshit. He's a ****ing joke and clearly has a negative bias in the mold of Clay.
Posts: 48,913

07-19-2016, 04:58 PM	#30
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3547775	I have a litany of valid reasons why this team could win it all in the next three seasons... why hasnt Teicher moved on to another beat all of these years later, does no one else want him?
Posts: 91,860