Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

[Mr. Laz]

Tips are excuse for Restaurants to underpay their help and add hidden cost to customers.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Tips are excuse for Restaurants to underpay their help and add hidden cost to customers.

You're an idiot.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You're an idiot.

That statement was actually kind of true. If they paid their waitstaff (as they should), that cost would definitely be reflected in the bill. Cutting out that cost gives the illusion of a cheaper dining experience.

What other reason is there for the restaurant only paying a tiny wage?

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by loochy

That statement was actually kind of true. If they paid their waitstaff (as they should), that cost would definitely be reflected in the bill. Cutting out that cost gives the illusion of a cheaper dining experience.

What other reason is there for the restaurant only paying a tiny wage?

It is impossible to negate that payment from the customer without ****ing over the server.

The idiotic thing are these cheap assholes who want the restaurant to cover the service charge in the total cost of the meal. Guess what? Then you cease to decide if the server gets 15% or 18% or 25% or 10%. It will just be a flat 20%, invisible service charge. Or maybe 30%. You'll never know. It will just be hidden within the cost on the menu.

So now you have ****ed yourself because you were too cheap. Congrats.

Additionally, most of these assholes are hiding behind "Derp the serviss wasnt good enuff!" to justify their asshattery. As if tipping 8.00 is SOOOOOOOOO much harder than tipping $5.00.

Well, guess what? When you cease to make server's pay merit-based, what do you think you will get? Better service?

Try eating in Europe and tell me who gives better service. And I'm not slamming Europe. I spend a great deal of my time there, and I personally love that the servers don't work for tips and get health insurance and vacation. You get better service, just not as attentive (I think).

But all of this is just assholes trying to find some sliver of a justification for ****ing over somebody who is trying to serve them.

**** them.

[Swanman]

The funny thing is even if the asshat crossed out the automatic gratuity, I think it will still be charged.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Swanman

The funny thing is even if the asshat crossed out the automatic gratuity, I think it will still be charged.

as it should be...and it will be, right?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by loochy

as it should be...and it will be, right?

Yeah....that shit is posted all over the restaurant, menus and receipts. Just because you cross it out.....doesn't mean you aren't going to pay for it.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by loochy

as it should be...and it will be, right?

Yes but if he paid with a credit card he can dispute the charge and get the gratuity removed.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Swanman

The funny thing is even if the asshat crossed out the automatic gratuity, I think it will still be charged.

Oh it will, lol. To be honest, the person who wrote that on the check probably wasn't even a pastor...it was probably just some lame attempt to get "famous" on reddit...if I were to guess.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

It is impossible to negate that payment from the customer without ****ing over the server.

The idiotic thing are these cheap assholes who want the restaurant to cover the service charge in the total cost of the meal. Guess what? Then you cease to decide if the server gets 15% or 18% or 25% or 10%. It will just be a flat 20%, invisible service charge. Or maybe 30%. You'll never know. It will just be hidden within the cost on the menu.

So now you have ****ed yourself because you were too cheap. Congrats.

Additionally, most of these assholes are hiding behind "Derp the serviss wasnt good enuff!" to justify their asshattery. As if tipping 8.00 is SOOOOOOOOO much harder than tipping $5.00.

Well, guess what? When you cease to make server's pay merit-based, what do you think you will get? Better service?

Try eating in Europe and tell me who gives better service. And I'm not slamming Europe. I spend a great deal of my time there, and I personally love that the servers don't work for tips and get health insurance and vacation. You get better service, just not as attentive (I think).

But all of this is just assholes trying to find some sliver of a justification for ****ing over somebody who is trying to serve them.

**** them.

LOL @ beggars

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by loochy

LOL @ beggars

This joke didn't work.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Tips are excuse for Restaurants to underpay their help and add hidden cost to customers.

And it goes even further than that in Branson, and other areas now. Let me break down JUST how poor this whole system is. Now, many restaurants add what is called tipshare to a waiter's wages. Let me explain, they pay half the minimum wage, and then require the server to pay up to 3.5% of all sales for the night into the tipshare program. Great program, right? I mean, the bussers, food runners, hosts/hostesses, and bartenders should all get a cut right?

Wrong. They then turn around and pay those hosts, bussers, foodrunners, and bartenders 2/3 of the minimum wage and supplement the rest of their income with tipshare. It's ****ing incredible. A server works a 6 hour shift in which they make 3.33 an hour. They do $1000 in sales meaning they have to pay $35 into tip share and their wages make up $20. They actually pay $15 to work for the night.

And if you don't tip, and stiff them like the good pastor here has tried to do? They have to pay it regardless of what they make in tips. They literally paid to wait on you out of the hope that you're part of the majority and a decent enough person to tip them. That's why restaurants are pushing 18% instead of 15% these days.

Complete and utter bullshit.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

And it goes even further than that in Branson, and other areas now. Let me break down JUST how poor this whole system is. Now, many restaurants add what is called tipshare to a waiter's wages. Let me explain, they pay half the minimum wage, and then require the server to pay up to 3.5% of all sales for the night into the tipshare program. Great program, right? I mean, the bussers, food runners, hosts/hostesses, and bartenders should all get a cut right?

Wrong. They then turn around and pay those hosts, bussers, foodrunners, and bartenders 2/3 of the minimum wage and supplement the rest of their income with tipshare. It's ****ing incredible. A server works a 6 hour shift in which they make 3.33 an hour. They do $1000 in sales meaning they have to pay $35 into tip share and their wages make up $20. They actually pay $15 to work for the night.

And if you don't tip, and stiff them like the good pastor here has tried to do? They have to pay it regardless of what they make in tips. They literally paid to wait on you out of the hope that you're part of the majority and a decent enough person to tip them. That's why restaurants are pushing 18% instead of 15% these days.

Complete and utter bullshit.

Yeah, that was how it worked at the TGI Fridays I used to work at back in the day. It really sucked for the support staff (bussers, hosts, food runners) because they just got paid like shit when all was said and done. They paid the cooks pretty well though, from what I saw. I knew one guy that only worked there for a year or so and was making $12 an hour. They had guys in that kitchen that had been there for 15 years; but I don't know how much they were making. They were all Haitian and Mexican back there. No American would ever last longer than a couple months or so..

But back to your post, I could never truly feel sorry for the servers at my store. If you were in a good section and working a closing shift, you'd walk out with $300 easy. Shit, you'd make $100 in a shitty section getting cut first. That store was busy as **** though. It was right next to Disney World so in the summer months it got absolutely ****ing ridiculous. They used to say it was the busiest Fridays in the country.