Rank the Chiefs needs

[RunKC]

In your opinion. What are your top 4 needs and why? (we have 4 picks in the top 3 rounds)

I'm gonna say in order of importance:

1. OL-Stephenson looked good last Sunday, but LG is terrible. IMO this is what is destroying our offense. No time to throw, no time for receivers to go deep or finish long routes, some problems in the running game (our RB's make to look way better though).

La'El Collins would solidify the left side IMO. He's a beast.

2. Receiver-we have 4 good weapons IMO: Kelce, DAT, Bowe and Charles. It doesn't even have to be a top WR. It could be a TE like Kelce. Get one more quality receiver bc Fasano and every WR after Bowe (except maybe Wilson. He's making the most of his opportunity) sucks.

Owen Daniels would be a solid FA pickup. He was only $1 million this season.

3. DB-sure we have some good guys there, but Abdullah and Parker are nearing 30. Sanders Commings is made of glass so a young safety to add would be helpful.
The Prewitt kid from Ole Miss is awesome, but we would most likely have to get him rd 1.

Is CB a huge need? Sean Smith has been very good this year. Gaines just needs to add strength and he'll be a fine #2 at this pace, Owens did well playing nickel and Cooper is here to develop. That's 4 guys. I'd take a mid rd guy to develop behind them.

4. Pass rusher-we add one every year and will again. Bailey should stay and we have Walker, but insurance for Cat could be needed.

I think we will draft an OLB for depth to prepare for Tamba's departure whether he stays or goes. I'd like to get one rd 3 in the event that we have a future stud to rotate with Ford/Houston and be ready if either gets hurt.

Thoughts?

[bshmerlie]

1. Offensive Lineman
2. WR
3. CB
4. WR
5. Pass Rusher
6. RB
7. Defensive Lineman

Our Oline looks better than it is because Alex is getting rid of the ball so quickly and we have JC. I would like us to draft two WRs because you have a 50% chance of finding a good one....besides we could use at least two. A corner because they take time to develop and there are always injuries to deal with.

[Easy 6]

1) Receivers - no explanation needed.
2) LG and line depth/starter pushers - JC has gotten something like 80 and 78 yards on 20 touches per game the last two weeks and that surely isnt his fault.
3) Corners - this group is currently getting it done, but yeah, we all know some upgrades are in order.
4) DJ's replacement at ILB, God Bless him but he'll never be the same after that injury at his age.
5) You can never have too many pass rushers, lets find a promising backup for Houston.

Thats it, with 11 picks we can double dip at each position and triple dip on one of them.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Thoughts?

My thought is that you're way, way off base.

The number one need isn't a left guard, it's a receiver to stretch the field.

The Chiefs needs are at WR, CB, DL, G, ILB and TE.

Ron Parker is 27, Abdullah is 28. Both are in their "Prime". Abdullah has less wear and tear because he took off a year from football. Daniel Sorensen will continue to be developed and see spot duty but with Coleman and Mcray, safety is hardly a pressing need.

Effective guards can easily be found from rounds 3-7 and considering the Chiefs will likely have two picks in each of the final rounds, they'll have their pick of the litter. But keep in mind, Jeff Allen will return next season, making the guard position a little less important in the 2015 draft.

[DaneMcCloud]

Also, Richardson didn't see a snap at right tackle. He had three snaps on special teams.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The number one need isn't a left guard, it's a receiver to stretch the field.

This is isn't to bash Smith but I think that kind of receiver would be wasted. A receiver like Keenan Allen who runs excellent routes and gets consistently open (last year anyway) on the intermediate routes might be a better fit.

[OldSchool]

Wr
CB
OL
MLB
DL

That's how I see it right now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Frosty

This is isn't to bash Smith but I think that kind of receiver would be wasted. A receiver like Keenan Allen who runs excellent routes and gets consistently open (last year anyway) on the intermediate routes might be a better fit.

Sure, Keenan Allen would be a great fit. But they need someone that can run excellent routes, has elite speed (sub 4.4) and at least 6'2. It's all about the YAC in the WCO.

With Bowe, Kelce, Charles, DAT and a WR as described, this offense would be difficult to contain.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Frosty

This is isn't to bash Smith but I think that kind of receiver would be wasted. A receiver like Keenan Allen who runs excellent routes and gets consistently open (last year anyway) on the intermediate routes might be a better fit.

Getting a WR with reliable hands, great ball skills, great body control, who can also run really fast, (in other words a #1 WR) would be a waste of time?

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Getting a WR with reliable hands, great ball skills, great body control, who can also run really fast, (in other words a #1 WR) would be a waste of time?

When did I say that?

I was responding to the WR that "can stretch the field".

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Frosty

When did I say that?

I was responding to the WR that "can stretch the field".

So they should pass on Sammie Coates and DeVante Parker? Both guys can stretch the field.

[the Talking Can]

Stephenson can't beat out a street FA...he's fine as a swing backup though (Saccopoo still thinks this guy who can't get on the field is better than Albert)

Sorenson isn't on the team, thankfully, as he sucks ass

Of the people injured, I have the most hope for catapano*...really sucks he lost a year of development

#1 - WR...Bowe is a #2, and no one beneath him is worth anything, none of them have #1/#2 upside...we need to draft a couple of WRs, imo...got to have some damn speed

#2 - front 7...a bit of a cop out answer, but between DJ's injury, Hali's age/contract, Devito surely getting cut, our occasional softness against the run, I'd be all over the best ILB/pass rusher/DE (*if we found a young stud to pair with poe and bailey, we'd have something beastly)

#3a CB - can you have enough? not sure what we can count on from cooper

#3b - guard...3rd round stuff

#4 - Safety...apparently we're going to let our young All-Pro safety walk because we're 5-3 and something called Ron Parker plays for us...these are the things incredibly stupid people think, but there it is

generally, it seems age is going to hit our defense first...so, WR then defense...I trust them to find a guard in later rounds or cheap FA

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

My thought is that you're way, way off base.

The number one need isn't a left guard, it's a receiver to stretch the field.

The Chiefs needs are at WR, CB, DL, G, ILB and TE.

Ron Parker is 27, Abdullah is 28. Both are in their "Prime". Abdullah has less wear and tear because he took off a year from football. Daniel Sorensen will continue to be developed and see spot duty but with Coleman and Mcray, safety is hardly a pressing need.

Effective guards can easily be found from rounds 3-7 and considering the Chiefs will likely have two picks in each of the final rounds, they'll have their pick of the litter. But keep in mind, Jeff Allen will return next season, making the guard position a little less important in the 2015 draft.

I can definitely see this as being the plan. I think that Reid wants a speedy receiver in general. Not just for downfield threats, but YAC and quick outs on blitzes.
I could see him wanting a guy like that to really work the first 20 yards downfield.

We've been using DAT in that situation a few times this year. Hopefully Albert Wilson can give us a decent option as the season continues.

A darkhorse pick for the first 2 rounds could be a dynamic TE like Kelce. I think we will get rid of Fasano this year and look for his replacement in the draft. Just can't see us paying this guy so much to be a blocker.

Would love to see us add another good receiver and TE tho.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

So they should pass on Sammie Coates and DeVante Parker? Both guys can stretch the field.

Right, because that's exactly what I said.




Speed is a premium. If you can get that guy, great. But imo, there is no reason to sell out for a guy just because he is fast.

You said it yourself last off-season when you said you would rather have Josh Huff than Brandin Cooks. At first, I though you were either functionally reeruned or a Duck fan (pretty much the same thing). Then I found out you were a 49ers fan that followed Alex here and it made perfect sense. A solid possession receiver would make your boy look better than a speed guy would.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Right, because that's exactly what I said.




Speed is a premium. If you can get that guy, great. But imo, there is no reason to sell out for a guy just because he is fast.

You said it yourself last off-season when you said you would rather have Josh Huff than Brandin Cooks. At first, I though you were either functionally reeruned or a Duck fan (pretty much the same thing). Then I found out you were a 49ers fan that followed Alex here and it made perfect sense. A solid possession receiver would make your boy look better than a speed guy would.

I wanted Josh Huff in the middle rounds, not the 1st. And have you even watched how the Saints have used Cooks? Lots of short stuff to get him out in space just like Reid uses DAT in the passing game. Got the exact same thing in Thomas, just at much better value.

So you're saying Cooks sucks at getting YAC?