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Old 08-03-2013, 01:19 AM   #1
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:27 AM   #2
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:32 AM   #3
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:23 AM   #4
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The thing I think irritates most is that this was one of the few chances KC will ever have to go into a season with the best available QB (Alex, for most) and as well as having the ability to draft the best QB prospect in the draft. The chiefs had the chance to do both and instead, did not.
fair point, but you have a job & a team to root for and these are not mutually exclusive. Dorsey /Reid haven't even had a chance to scrimmage their team and folks are ready to burn their house down.

Imo the Chiefs had a chance to get RG3 last season and passed it up. That was the big burn, not Geno/Smiff. Imo Geno isn't going to be able to play NFL level ball for a couple seasons, if at all. He's your average NFL QB prospect, not an elite 1.1 or even first rounder. It isn't even close, either. He's got a hot head, and I've said in the past about him that I like a guy with a lil fire, but it has to be part of a talented package in order to be considered viable at this level -- for example, Ryan Leaf has fire, and well.. so, it takes more than spirited fire to play NFL ball.

The rest we've beaten to death. He fell. folks don't like that. cyber riot ensues.
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:18 PM   #5
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:59 AM   #6
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If you haven't given up hope after last season and the off-season "moves" the Chiefs made; then you likely never will.

Hope is a dangerous thing, folks.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:18 AM   #7
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If you haven't given up hope after last season and the off-season "moves" the Chiefs made; then you likely never will.

Hope is a dangerous thing, folks.
So you think we should give up hope?

Shit canning arguable the worst coaching staff and front office in the history of the NFL and going after the best guys available and opening the vault to get every thing they want or need is surely a reason to give up hope.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:22 AM   #8
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So you think we should give up hope?

Shit canning arguable the worst coaching staff and front office in the history of the NFL and going after the best guys available and opening the vault to get every thing they want or need is surely a reason to give up hope.
You watched your team play a historically awful season; then trade for a lame stopgap QB and draft a RT No. 1 overall.

If that gets you hard, then so be it.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:30 AM   #9
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You watched your team play a historically awful season; then trade for a lame stopgap QB and draft a RT No. 1 overall.

If that gets you hard, then so be it.
You can feel all hopless and lost, its your right.

I do find it hilarious that some fans would have "hope" if we would have used 1.1 on a 2nd round caliber QB.

There wasn't a franchise caliber QB in this draft and I 100% believe if there was Dorsey and Reid would have been all over it.

You can hold your breath and stomp your feet and show disgust all day long, it doesn't change the fact it was a shit QB class.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:05 AM   #10
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You can feel all hopless and lost, its your right.

I do find it hilarious that some fans would have "hope" if we would have used 1.1 on a 2nd round caliber QB.

There wasn't a franchise caliber QB in this draft and I 100% believe if there was Dorsey and Reid would have been all over it.

You can hold your breath and stomp your feet and show disgust all day long, it doesn't change the fact it was a shit QB class.
It's early, but base on early reports would you rather have Geno or Fisher in camp with the Chiefs?
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:39 AM   #11
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You can feel all hopless and lost, its your right.

I do find it hilarious that some fans would have "hope" if we would have used 1.1 on a 2nd round caliber QB.

There wasn't a franchise caliber QB in this draft and I 100% believe if there was Dorsey and Reid would have been all over it.

You can hold your breath and stomp your feet and show disgust all day long, it doesn't change the fact it was a shit QB class.
It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. No franchise caliber QB in this class still doesn't mandate that you trade valuable picks for a bottom third QB. There are other options.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:46 AM   #12
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:55 AM   #13
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If you haven't given up hope after last season and the off-season "moves" the Chiefs made; then you likely never will.

Hope is a dangerous thing, folks.
Fear of hope is a sad and pathetic thing, folks.
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If you haven't given up hope after last season and the off-season "moves" the Chiefs made; then you likely never will.

Hope is a dangerous thing, folks.
I saw a news segment last night about the record crowds at training camp and how Chiefs/Cowboys tickets are averaging ~$200 right now (granted, Cowboys fans are probably part of that, it's amusing since both fanbases haven't had many reasons to pay that much for tickets since the mid-90s)....

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You watched your team play a historically awful season; then trade for a lame stopgap QB and draft a RT No. 1 overall.

If that gets you hard, then so be it.
...it's crazy how they can fail in exactly the same way over and over and over, but simply trying to start over every few years creates enough buzz to keep fans coming back time and time again.


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You can feel all hopless and lost, its your right.

I do find it hilarious that some fans would have "hope" if we would have used 1.1 on a 2nd round caliber QB.

There wasn't a franchise caliber QB in this draft and I 100% believe if there was Dorsey and Reid would have been all over it.

You can hold your breath and stomp your feet and show disgust all day long, it doesn't change the fact it was a shit QB class.
Would you have been angry if the Chiefs had 1.1 and used it to draft Aaron Rodgers? My opinion is that maybe this was the one draft where we can be 100% certain there was no QB worth taking at #1, but it doesn't excuse the fact that they once again spent a draft pick on another team's backup or didn't take a chance in the 3rd.

Someone posted the stat during the draft.... the Packers have drafted something like 13 QBs in the first 3 rounds since 1992, and they had Favre for 15 of those years. The Chiefs have drafted one, I think? One franchise clearly gets it, while the other does not.

So, maybe Dorsey knew this wasn't the year, and previous regime's failures aren't his fault, but you can't keep feeding me the same shit over and over and over and expect me to think it's going to be different the 5th or 6th or 7th time around. Again, that's not their fault, and maybe they really do see something in Alex Smith or they're already looking at someone for next year, etc; but the same things could be said about previous regimes, too. 'Hopeless' is a strong word... I'm much more apathetic than anything.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:27 AM   #15
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So, maybe Dorsey knew this wasn't the year, and previous regime's failures aren't his fault, but you can't keep feeding me the same shit over and over and over and expect me to think it's going to be different the 5th or 6th or 7th time around. Again, that's not their fault, and maybe they really do see something in Alex Smith or they're already looking at someone for next year, etc; but the same things could be said about previous regimes, too. 'Hopeless' is a strong word... I'm much more apathetic than anything.
I'm pretty sure that Reid sees Alex Smith as his prototype for running the Edwards West Coast system. Very smart, very accurate in the intermediary range, doesn't put the ball into the defenses hands and is athletic enough to keep the defenses honest if he needs to pull the ball down and take off.

This may sound a bit crazy, but I firmly believe that Alex Smith is a better fit/better QB for running Andy's offense than Donovan McNabb and I think that's what Reid believes as well. I think he believes that with Smith and the roster as it stands can win and win a lot right now.

I think that if this team buys into what Reid wants them to do and Sutton can get even 20% more out of the defense that they gave last season under Crennel, this team wins the AFC West and a first round playoff game this season with a shot at more.

Like I said earlier 11-5, AFC West Champs and they lose to the Texans in the AFC Championship game in 2013.
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