Football Everyone Calm Down~! - Page 5

BleedingRed · 10-03-2016, 08:14 AM

It was a weather game, and we just were on the wrong side of the RIVER OF LUCK last night.

Lets just remember the following things before we discuss what "WE" think should be done.

Facts:
- Spencer Ware has had 3 fumbles in 3 weeks. He never fumbled in college, he can fix this issue. If this was something like not having "Vision" or "Power" we could have an issue. But this kid keeps looking the part running the ball.

- Alex Smith + Rain = no deep ball (well erm, we will see even if it is sunny I would like more deep shots)

- Our Division isn't stacked with "Complete" teams...
Denver's defense looks amazing, how ever they have a injured QB and now the rookie is starting. Mistakes will happen, we just need to limit ours (bad timing after last night, but that wasn't representative of our team)

Oakland's defense is far worse off than our is even without Justin Houston. I'm disappointed in our D/Line (minus Poe) but, we can start to fix this with sending CB's or Derrick Johnson on more pass rushes. In any case, Raiders Defense is swiss cheese right now. (They do have a very good offense) So the name of the game is to bait Carr into mistakes, something Marcus Peters is amazing at.

San Diego - Nuff Said, these guys make choking look easy.

In closing:
Andy Reid has a great ability to make games like last night into a "Rally Cry" (God at least I hope he does this) And he is a steady hand that will get this Team back on track... With Jamaal coming back, and the emergence of Spencer Ware I believe we can really open our passing attack up (You know... Alex Smith only throwing to wide open people) and I hope that means we can push the ball down field more.

Our Defense will only be able to live up to the expectations we have formed for them if our D/Line steps up their damn play. (I personally don't think our secondary is bad, even with the mental lapses last night)

Cheers guys, and just remember 1-5 to 11-5....... We are going to be fine

**Baby Lee** · 10-03-2016, 02:52 PM

As bad as yesterday was, the glory of the NFL is it still only counts as one loss.
No different in the big picture than if we'd had a defensive stalemate or a gunslinging shootout decided at the gun by a missed FG.
Plus, it was a road loss
Minus, it was a conference loss.

Other than that, it's history. On to the next opponent.

Everyone can spitter and sputter, but that's the way successful competitors look at it.

**Easy 6** · 10-03-2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

As bad as yesterday was, the glory of the NFL is it still only counts as one loss.
No different in the big picture than if we'd had a defensive stalemate or a gunslinging shootout decided at the gun by a missed FG.
Plus, it was a road loss
Minus, it was a conference loss.

Other than that, it's history. On to the next opponent.

Everyone can spitter and sputter, but that's the way successful competitors look at it.

It isnt just that we lost, its HOW we lost

The Chiefs were absolutely unprepared in every single phase of the game, that is inexcuseable

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2016, 02:59 PM

**Baby Lee** · 10-03-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

It isnt just that we lost, its HOW we lost

The Chiefs were absolutely unprepared in every single phase of the game, that is inexcuseable

No one's looking for excuses.

The loss will be a loss tomorrow, and in preseason 2017, and in 2150.

Doesn't have anything to do with how best to prepare to play the Raiders in two weeks.

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2016, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

how best to prepare to play the Raiders in two weeks.

Beef Supreme · 10-03-2016, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

Mr. Laz · 10-03-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

No one's looking for excuses.

The loss will be a loss tomorrow, and in preseason 2017, and in 2150.

Doesn't have anything to do with how best to prepare to play the Raiders in two weeks.

Yea, but the poor way we prepare for the Steelers is definitely an issue when it comes to how well we are probably going to prepare for the Raiders and other future games.

Shitty trends tend to remain shitty

RippedmyFlesh · 10-03-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Just have to recover and finish strong, that's all there is to it

**Bugeater** · 10-03-2016, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt

Serious question here:

Why does it take an ass-raping like yesterday for the homers to finally wake up?

Uhhh...read some of TigerHomerbone's reeruned posts.

xztop123 · 10-03-2016, 05:19 PM

The problems are basically in order of suckage

1) Zombo. Literally never gets pressure - Houston will fix this

2) D-line pass rush. not sure whos sucking hard but I dont think Bailey has any pass rush moves, its time to play the guy we drafted, and maybe start him.

3) The offense was at its best with West, not Ware. West is the best pass catching RB on the team and is ideal for the offense, that needs a Brian Westbrook presence.

4) Reid has some weird playcalling idiosyncrasies.... That fake bubble screen quick slant play ALWAYS works but he only uses it ONE time per game... usually the first drive... Does he think that using it more than once simply will not work? I don't understand this.

5) its very possible Doug Pederson was responsible for the success we had last year and that without him we will keep seeing odd playcalling.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-03-2016, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

The problems are basically in order of suckage

1) Zombo. Literally never gets pressure - Houston will fix this

2) D-line pass rush. not sure whos sucking hard but I dont think Bailey has any pass rush moves, its time to play the guy we drafted, and maybe start him.

3) The offense was at its best with West, not Ware. West is the best pass catching RB on the team and is ideal for the offense, that needs a Brian Westbrook presence.

4) Reid has some weird playcalling idiosyncrasies.... That fake bubble screen quick slant play ALWAYS works but he only uses it ONE time per game... usually the first drive... Does he think that using it more than once simply will not work? I don't understand this.

5) its very possible Doug Pederson was responsible for the success we had last year and that without him we will keep seeing odd playcalling.

In that order? The Chiefs have played 8 halves this year. The Chiefs' D showed up for 5 of 8 of those halves. Our offense has shown up for 2 or 3 of 8, and that's being generous since the Jets game was gift wrapped for the offense.

Actually, let's run that over Reid's entire run. The % seems about the same. The defense showed up 75% of the time, the offense showed up 25% of the time. And the offense has no excuses. They are playing with better talent this year than the one they had to end last year. A big chunk of last night's blame can be attributed to lack of a pass rush and DJ White, backups forced into a starting role due to injury. The offensive problems are primarily on the shoulders of Andy Reid and Alex Smith, two guys who are not injured whatsoever. That's cause for concern.

xztop123 · 10-03-2016, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

In that order? The Chiefs have played 8 halves this year. The Chiefs' D showed up for 5 of 8 of those halves. Our offense has shown up for 2 or 3 of 8, and that's being generous since the Jets game was gift wrapped for the offense.

Actually, let's run that over Reid's entire run. The % seems about the same. The defense showed up 75% of the time, the offense showed up 25% of the time. And the offense has no excuses. They are playing with better talent this year than the one they had to end last year. A big chunk of last night's blame can be attributed to lack of a pass rush and DJ White, backups forced into a starting role due to injury. The offensive problems are primarily on the shoulders of Andy Reid and Alex Smith, two guys who are not injured whatsoever. That's cause for concern.

Well the two fumbles cost us points both games. A lot of people just look at the score board and determine how well the offense is playing (or isnt playing) Had the Hill Td's held up it would look like our o is doing better than it is. Yards and stuff the O isn't doing that terribly.

My issue with the offense is that it takes so long to get plays in. So far everytime we let Smith run a no huddle, we've had success but Reid seems like a control freak with the playcalling.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-03-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123

Well the two fumbles cost us points both games. A lot of people just look at the score board and determine how well the offense is playing (or isnt playing) Had the Hill Td's held up it would look like our o is doing better than it is. Yards and stuff the O isn't doing that terribly.

My issue with the offense is that it takes so long to get plays in. So far everytime we let Smith run a no huddle, we've had success but Reid seems like a control freak with the playcalling.

For one game, sure. But I'll look at the long-term view on this....

New problems: Plays are taking even longer to get in than the slow time it took last year. Our over-reliance on the sideway screen game -- we're throwing sideways passes that aren't working over and over and over again even when we're down by 2, 3, 4 TDs. Alex Smith can't see beyond his initial read -- arguably, he's gotten worse with a better OL, as interestingly he isn't running as much as he used to. It seems like his game is maybe built off of one read, then run... not a trend I'm terribly excited about.

Old problems: Alex Smith has no urgency whatsoever until he's down 2-3 scores, or down a score in the 4th. Andy Reid's game management still sucks.

Reid/Dorsey made the strategic decision to invest a lot in the pass offense. To the point where I believe it's eating big time into our defense. The problem is, the D is understandably declining and the O is getting worse despite better talent. That's cause for concern and right now, Reid and Smith, the two guys who are our mainstays are the biggest part of our problem. By a mile.

tecumseh · 10-03-2016, 06:57 PM

Yep. Blahblahblah. After last night, I'm ready to see what Foles can do. I know Andy calls the plays but the QB can audible.

tecumseh · 10-03-2016, 06:58 PM

Last night Smith played like Bambi lost in the woods. #$%^ Composure. Show some emotion.

10-03-2016, 08:14 AM
BleedingRed THIS .... IS... ARROWHEAD!!!! Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Houston, Tx Casino cash: $4770400	Everyone Calm Down~! It was a weather game, and we just were on the wrong side of the RIVER OF LUCK last night. Lets just remember the following things before we discuss what "WE" think should be done. Facts: - Spencer Ware has had 3 fumbles in 3 weeks. He never fumbled in college, he can fix this issue. If this was something like not having "Vision" or "Power" we could have an issue. But this kid keeps looking the part running the ball. - Alex Smith + Rain = no deep ball (well erm, we will see even if it is sunny I would like more deep shots) - Our Division isn't stacked with "Complete" teams... Denver's defense looks amazing, how ever they have a injured QB and now the rookie is starting. Mistakes will happen, we just need to limit ours (bad timing after last night, but that wasn't representative of our team) Oakland's defense is far worse off than our is even without Justin Houston. I'm disappointed in our D/Line (minus Poe) but, we can start to fix this with sending CB's or Derrick Johnson on more pass rushes. In any case, Raiders Defense is swiss cheese right now. (They do have a very good offense) So the name of the game is to bait Carr into mistakes, something Marcus Peters is amazing at. San Diego - Nuff Said, these guys make choking look easy. In closing: Andy Reid has a great ability to make games like last night into a "Rally Cry" (God at least I hope he does this) And he is a steady hand that will get this Team back on track... With Jamaal coming back, and the emergence of Spencer Ware I believe we can really open our passing attack up (You know... Alex Smith only throwing to wide open people) and I hope that means we can push the ball down field more. Our Defense will only be able to live up to the expectations we have formed for them if our D/Line steps up their damn play. (I personally don't think our secondary is bad, even with the mental lapses last night) Cheers guys, and just remember 1-5 to 11-5....... We are going to be fine
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Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	As bad as yesterday was, the glory of the NFL is it still only counts as one loss. No different in the big picture than if we'd had a defensive stalemate or a gunslinging shootout decided at the gun by a missed FG. Plus, it was a road loss Minus, it was a conference loss. Other than that, it's history. On to the next opponent. Everyone can spitter and sputter, but that's the way successful competitors look at it. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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xztop123 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $3930609	The problems are basically in order of suckage 1) Zombo. Literally never gets pressure - Houston will fix this 2) D-line pass rush. not sure whos sucking hard but I dont think Bailey has any pass rush moves, its time to play the guy we drafted, and maybe start him. 3) The offense was at its best with West, not Ware. West is the best pass catching RB on the team and is ideal for the offense, that needs a Brian Westbrook presence. 4) Reid has some weird playcalling idiosyncrasies.... That fake bubble screen quick slant play ALWAYS works but he only uses it ONE time per game... usually the first drive... Does he think that using it more than once simply will not work? I don't understand this. 5) its very possible Doug Pederson was responsible for the success we had last year and that without him we will keep seeing odd playcalling.
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tecumseh Veteran Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sweet Spot Casino cash: $9990615	Last night Smith played like Bambi lost in the woods. #$%^ Composure. Show some emotion.
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