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Old 07-09-2016, 09:18 AM  
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Eric Berry ‘a bit surprised’ on lack of extension progress

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Old 07-20-2016, 09:25 AM   #841
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I do think people are severely understating the role Berry plays in the locker room. I would say he is currently a top 10 "leader" in the league right now, or at least guy that you would absolutely want on your team.

With not only everything he's been through, but also the quality of player he is and the respect he has from other players, that absolutely is a value-added trait that is not easy to equate to quantifiable salary numbers. I think him being on our team this year is essential to reaching our peak, and if he treats this as his true contract year, we may actually see what a $12 million safety looks like. I bet he's approaching this as such and will make sure he gets his money.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:45 AM   #842
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Yep, I remember 2014 very well. The Chiefs went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. 5 of those seven losses were games played without Eric Berry.
And his missed tackle in the Raiders game led directly to a loss.

In the other games, the offense was nothing less than atrocious, especially against the Titans, Cardinals and the 49ers. Kelce's fumbling, Dwayne Bowe's laziness and an unhealthy Charles were the reasons why the Chiefs missed the playoffs.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:58 AM   #843
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And his missed tackle in the Raiders game led directly to a loss.

In the other games, the offense was nothing less than atrocious, especially against the Titans, Cardinals and the 49ers. Kelce's fumbling, Dwayne Bowe's laziness and an unhealthy Charles were the reasons why the Chiefs missed the playoffs.
DJ's lost was the biggest of the season, IMO.

And I didn't fully realize that until his return last year. What he's able to do in the run game is incredible. His ability to diagnose plays and blow them up before they start is without peer.

The athleticism is waning so his coverage skills will continue to decline. I also worry that he doesn't have 16+ games at a high level in him anymore. So I hope this influx of MLB talent we've brought in of late is to give him a breather as much as find a replacement.

But in bursts, he's still as good as anybody in the game. We missed the playoffs because we lost Derrick Johnson.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:18 AM   #844
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And his missed tackle in the Raiders game led directly to a loss.
LOL He literally had an apple-sized mass in his chest that game. Got pulled out for having chest pains, IIRC.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:19 AM   #845
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DJ's lost was the biggest of the season, IMO.

And I didn't fully realize that until his return last year. What he's able to do in the run game is incredible. His ability to diagnose plays and blow them up before they start is without peer.

The athleticism is waning so his coverage skills will continue to decline. I also worry that he doesn't have 16+ games at a high level in him anymore. So I hope this influx of MLB talent we've brought in of late is to give him a breather as much as find a replacement.

But in bursts, he's still as good as anybody in the game. We missed the playoffs because we lost Derrick Johnson.
I do think losing devito and berry hurt the run game alot. But here we are a gun with berry and stopping the run and not paying 12 mil for him to do that.

Honestly, the fact that Reid got that 14 squad to 9 and 7 is coach of the year worthy.
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:33 AM   #846
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DJ's lost was the biggest of the season, IMO.

But in bursts, he's still as good as anybody in the game. We missed the playoffs because we lost Derrick Johnson.
Agreed.

Although the offense, especially the lack of depth, was a huge factor.

Since 2014, the depth that Dorsey has been able to provide has been astonishing. Just about everyone thought the season was over last year when Charles went down, yet West and Ware led the team to 11 straight wins.

The offensive line, which went from a major weakness in 2014, was suddenly average with lots of depth.

Dorsey's a pimp.
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Old 07-20-2016, 11:08 AM   #847
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Dane you're really gonna give Berry shit in a game he played with a cancerous mass in his chest?

Come on man.
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:14 PM   #848
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More proof that the national media doesn't respect Poe like the local fans

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nf...ame-than-game/

NFL's Most Overrated Players

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Dontari Poe NT / Kansas City Chiefs

Coming off back surgery, he didn't play up to standards last season. He had just one sack in 15 games after combining to get 10.5 the previous two seasons.

This is a big year for Poe who is in a contract year.
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:18 PM   #849
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More proof that the national media doesn't respect Poe like the local fans

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Dontari Poe NT / Kansas City Chiefs

Coming off back surgery, he didn't play up to standards last season. He had just one sack in 15 games after combining to get 10.5 the previous two seasons.

This is a big year for Poe who is in a contract year.
While I agree with your take on Poe and his market, he was really good towards the end of the season, and the writer is an idiot.
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:21 PM   #850
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While I agree with your take on Poe and his market, he was really good towards the end of the season, and the writer is an idiot.
I don't think Prisco is an "idiot". He calls them like he sees them and while I frequently disagree with him, he's one of the better NFL writers out there today.

I couldn't believe he picked the Texans over the Chiefs and let him know I thought it was silly. After the game, he replied and said "Yep, I'm an idiot. I don't know what I thinking. Bad pick".

So at least he's not a dick.
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I'd pay Poe if he shows he's the 2013/2014 version In 2016. Poe and Jones lined up in the A gap will be very tough for OL's.
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I'd like to keep poe, for sure. Back issues scare me though
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I don't think Prisco is an "idiot". He calls them like he sees them and while I frequently disagree with him, he's one of the better NFL writers out there today.

I couldn't believe he picked the Texans over the Chiefs and let him know I thought it was silly. After the game, he replied and said "Yep, I'm an idiot. I don't know what I thinking. Bad pick".

So at least he's not a dick.
Didn't realize it was Prisco. I expect better from him.
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Agreed.

Although the offense, especially the lack of depth, was a huge factor.

Since 2014, the depth that Dorsey has been able to provide has been astonishing. Just about everyone thought the season was over last year when Charles went down, yet West and Ware led the team to 11 straight wins.

The offensive line, which went from a major weakness in 2014, was suddenly average with lots of depth.

Dorsey's a pimp.
Nah.

Discuss told me that the roster isn't any better than the one he inherited.

The number of people that are vested in being ****ing reeruned on this board is staggering. Dorsey's not an improvement over Pioli. Smith is just Cassel 2.0. Jeremy Maclin isn't better than Dwayne Bowe. The hits just keep ****ing comin' and all from the same 3-5 guys.

They're really smart.
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Speaking of maclin, I saw he had 1 drop in 88 attempts last year.

Iirc, that 1 drop potentially cost us a win against chicago
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