Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

[keg in kc]

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:

• No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
• Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
• Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Hawk

I actually think that scene was better in the book, or at least more impactful to me, maybe because I wasn't expecting it. But it was cooler in my mind's eye than it actually looked on screen. I agree with above, actually seeing a her fly off on the dragon looked a little bit cheesy. But still a good scene, it certainly rescued Dany's story arc in the book as it was a little boring up until that point.

In the book, there was no Harpy attack, everything was going fine with the fights until Drogon suddenly showed up and started eating innocent people. Hizdar had the guards attack Drogon, Dany jumped down to try to stop them...

But the important difference, in my mind, is that Drogon tries to kill Dany. Dany gets a whip and manages to subdue him, then climbs on his back and flies away.

In the show, Drogon rescues Dany from death, in the book, Dany basically dominates and conquers Drogon, then uses him.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by BigRichard

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php...isconceptions/

Interesting. I can say that I did not believe all Targaryens were immune, just Dany. So apparently if you are carrying dragon eggs and you walk into fire you will not be burned (except for your hair) because of some magical protective thing. Oh, and Dany craves extreme heat and walks into near-boiling water not problem. But she's not immune. That's really stupid.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by wazu

Interesting. I can say that I did not believe all Targaryens were immune, just Dany. So apparently if you are carrying dragon eggs and you walk into fire you will not be burned (except for your hair) because of some magical protective thing. Oh, and Dany craves extreme heat and walks into near-boiling water not problem. But she's not immune. That's really stupid.

On the show, they made a point once when she was bathing that the water was incredibly hot, yet she was unaffected. It would seem she has some ability to withstand heat that isn't normal.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Amnorix

This prompted me to refresh my memory on the dragons, and yeah, you are absolutely right. A few facts (none of which apply to Drogon, who is obviously just a kid, in Dragon terms).

1. as someone else mentioned, Balarion's fire was so hot it melted towers of Harrenhal.

2. the one time the three dragons took to the skies together, they burned 4,000 enemy soldiers. Drogon couldn't even do like 50.

3. Balarion's teeth were the size of swords, and his jaws wide enough that he could eat a mammoth whole.

By contrast, Drogon's teeth definitely aren't swords. See pic below.




One artist's image of Balarion, based on the description in teh books, makes him a bit bigger than Drogon. If you look carefully at the picture below, you'll notice tiny little Aegon the Conqueror on his back...




Quite different from.

Excellent Post!

[Bambi]

This week's episode was good but looked like amateur hour compared to last week. Lots to get wrapped up Sunday night.

[Fire Me Boy!]

An interesting read about the show runners' relationship with GRRRRRRR Martin.

http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/06/george-...wrunner-war/4/

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

An interesting read about the show runners' relationship with GRRRRRRR Martin.

http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/06/george-...wrunner-war/4/

Yeah, the way that the show has been going lately makes it seem like GRRM doesn't have much involvement anymore. Even changes that serve no purpose, like Mace Tyrell talking about "Maegor the Third" (there was only one Maegor, and he was so terrible that the name basically became taboo).

Obviously it isn't a big change, but it shows that they aren't really going to make much of an effort to keep to the details of the books consistent in the show.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Yeah, the way that the show has been going lately makes it seem like GRRM doesn't have much involvement anymore. Even changes that serve no purpose, like Mace Tyrell talking about "Maegor the Third" (there was only one Maegor, and he was so terrible that the name basically became taboo).

Obviously it isn't a big change, but it shows that they aren't really going to make much of an effort to keep to the details of the books consistent in the show.

No need for them to, especially if GRRM keeps putting along not finishing the story. It's not like they can take an 8 year hiatus from filming in hopes of him finishing the books.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Bowser

No need for them to, especially if GRRM keeps putting along not finishing the story. It's not like they can take an 8 year hiatus from filming in hopes of him finishing the books.

There's a middle ground between waiting for GRRM to finish the books and just doing "whatever, because who cares anyway?"

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

There's a middle ground between waiting for GRRM to finish the books and just doing "whatever, because who cares anyway?"

Agreed, but to this point I don't have major qualms with how they've extended storylines, particularly considering the sheer amount of people/info they've not included. It's kind of nice in a way to not know exactly what's about to transpire, imho anyway...

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Bowser

No need for them to, especially if GRRM keeps putting along not finishing the story. It's not like they can take an 8 year hiatus from filming in hopes of him finishing the books.

I think it's pretty shitty if they are making huge changes before they need to. You can't "take back" Stannis burning his own daughter. If they had done that after running out of book content then okay.

[MMXcalibur]

Originally Posted by wazu

I think it's pretty shitty if they are making huge changes before they need to. You can't "take back" Stannis burning his own daughter. If they had done that after running out of book content then okay.

It was all a dream.

Season finale tonight, so I'm preparing for the worst:

- Arya gets raped
- the entire city of Mereen contracts greyscale (along with the dragons)
- Stannis burns Davos at the stake just for fun
- Jon Snow is killed by a mean look from Olly
- and Ramsay beats Sansa to death with Theon's lost penis.

[DaFace]

Here's the "previously on" for this week:



That's a lot of time to spend on Benjen all the sudden...

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

It was all a dream.

Season finale tonight, so I'm preparing for the worst:

- Arya gets raped
- the entire city of Mereen contracts greyscale (along with the dragons)
- Stannis burns Davos at the stake just for fun
- Jon Snow is killed by a mean look from Olly
- and Ramsay beats Sansa to death with Theon's lost penis.

It's not often that a literally LOL from reading on forums, but this was GOLD. Funny overall post, but this part =

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

It's not often that a literally LOL from reading on forums, but this was GOLD. Funny overall post, but this part =

This