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Old 11-13-2012, 09:54 PM   #1
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Okay, Haley lovers: Please explain to me how Todd Haley, the Chiefs head coach less than 12 months ago and the person MOST familiar with the Chiefs personnel, needed overtime to score just 16 points?

16 points.

Atlanta: 40 points
Buffalo: 35 points
New Orleans: 24 points
San Diego: 37 points
Baltimore: 9 points
Tampa Bay: 38 points
Oakland: 26 points
San Diego: 31 points
Pittsburgh: 16 points

16 points! 13 in regulation. Wow, what a ****ing OFFENSIVE GENIUS.

Todd Haley ****ing blows. He wouldn't have a ****ing job as an OC if his Dad weren't best buddies with the Rooney family. There were people here (myself included) that thought he'd destroy the Chiefs.

Haley = Peter Principled Dumbass ****.

**** him.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:58 PM   #2
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Okay, Haley lovers: Please explain to me how Todd Haley, the Chiefs head coach less than 12 months ago and the person MOST familiar with the Chiefs personnel, needed overtime to score just 16 points?

16 points.

Atlanta: 40 points
Buffalo: 35 points
New Orleans: 24 points
San Diego: 37 points
Baltimore: 9 points
Tampa Bay: 38 points
Oakland: 26 points
San Diego: 31 points
Pittsburgh: 16 points

16 points! 13 in regulation. Wow, what a ****ing OFFENSIVE GENIUS.

Todd Haley ****ing blows. He wouldn't have a ****ing job as an OC if his Dad weren't best buddies with the Rooney family. There were people here (myself included) that thought he'd destroy the Chiefs.

Haley = Peter Principled Dumbass ****.

**** him.
And this is one week after the Chiefs cut their 2nd best corner and promoted a brand new D coordinator.

And they were at home...
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:01 PM   #3
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Okay, Haley lovers: Please explain to me how Todd Haley, the Chiefs head coach less than 12 months ago and the person MOST familiar with the Chiefs personnel, needed overtime to score just 16 points?

16 points.

Atlanta: 40 points
Buffalo: 35 points
New Orleans: 24 points
San Diego: 37 points
Baltimore: 9 points
Tampa Bay: 38 points
Oakland: 26 points
San Diego: 31 points
Pittsburgh: 16 points

16 points! 13 in regulation. Wow, what a ****ing OFFENSIVE GENIUS.

Todd Haley ****ing blows. He wouldn't have a ****ing job as an OC if his Dad weren't best buddies with the Rooney family. There were people here (myself included) that thought he'd destroy the Chiefs.

Haley = Peter Principled Dumbass ****.

**** him.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:04 PM   #4
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That doesn't even make any sense.

If Todd Haley was a great coach or offensive coordinator, he should have been able to carve up the Chiefs defense. A Chiefs defense that was allowing high double digit scoring to many teams.

Your argument is weak. Actually, it sucks.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:07 PM   #5
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That doesn't even make any sense.

If Todd Haley was a great coach or offensive coordinator, he should have been able to carve up the Chiefs defense. A Chiefs defense that was allowing high double digit scoring to many teams.

Your argument is weak. Actually, it sucks.
There are so many variables to consider. Pitt coming off an emotional game with the Giants, missing players, emotional effects for the Chiefs D, etc.

To try and just blame 1 party exclusively for their entire offensive performance seems silly to me and I think Haley did a piss-poor job attacking KC.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:10 PM   #6
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There are so many variables to consider. Pitt coming off an emotional game with the Giants, missing players, emotional effects for the Chiefs D, etc.
It's the NFL. The Steelers had an extra day to prepare.

Making excuses doesn't further the argument that Todd Haley is some sort of uber genius.

The facts prove otherwise.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:11 PM   #7
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It's the NFL. The Steelers had an extra day to prepare.

Making excuses doesn't further the argument that Todd Haley is some sort of uber genius.

The facts prove otherwise.


Who said he was an uber genius? I said that there are several variables you have to account for. To dismiss them is asinine.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:14 PM   #8
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Who said he was an uber genius? I said that there are several variables you have to account for. To dismiss them is asinine.
No, it is not.

Occam's Razor.

If Tampa Bay can put up 38 points, why can't Todd Haley? The guy that knows every strength and weakness of the Chiefs defense, like no other person on the planet?

Let's not forget that Byron Leftwich has won a ton of games in the NFL. He wasn't exactly Tyler Palko out there. And even so, the playcalling didn't change from Ben to Leftwich.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:02 PM   #9
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Okay, Haley lovers: Please explain to me how Todd Haley, the Chiefs head coach less than 12 months ago and the person MOST familiar with the Chiefs personnel, needed overtime to score just 16 points?

16 points.

Atlanta: 40 points
Buffalo: 35 points
New Orleans: 24 points
San Diego: 37 points
Baltimore: 9 points
Tampa Bay: 38 points
Oakland: 26 points
San Diego: 31 points
Pittsburgh: 16 points

16 points! 13 in regulation. Wow, what a ****ing OFFENSIVE GENIUS.

Todd Haley ****ing blows. He wouldn't have a ****ing job as an OC if his Dad weren't best buddies with the Rooney family. There were people here (myself included) that thought he'd destroy the Chiefs.

Haley = Peter Principled Dumbass ****.

**** him.
While I acknowledge that our players might have played with more gusto due to the circumstances, Haley's playcalling was not good on MNF IMO. However, his 2X SB winning Qb got KO'd. There are several different variables to consider. One must determine for themselves which had more impact.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:03 PM   #10
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While I acknowledge that our players might have played with more gusto due to the circumstances, Haley's playcalling was not good on MNF IMO. However, his 2X SB winning Qb got KO'd. There are several different variables to consider. One must determine for themselves which had more impact.
But before he was out, they only scored 10 points.

10 points.

Offensive genius.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:04 PM   #11
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But before he was out, they only scored 10 points.
I acknowledged that by stating Haley's playcalling was exceptionally poor.
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I acknowledged that by stating Haley's playcalling was exceptionally poor.
Well, his playcalling was always poor. That's pretty much my point.
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Well, his playcalling was always poor. That's pretty much my point.
Eh, his playcalling against Philly (first half playoffs), Atlanta (playoffs), Pitt (SB) and a few other games during his brief tenure as the Cards OC were fantastic.

He was up and down IMO. One also has to acknowledge he had 2 HOF players on offensive skill positions and several other good players.
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Eh, his playcalling against Philly (first half playoffs), Atlanta (playoffs), Pitt (SB) and a few other games during his brief tenure as the Cards OC were fantastic.

He was up and down IMO. One also has to acknowledge he had 2 HOF players on offensive skill positions and several other good players.
How much of that was Whisenhunt and how much of that was Haley?

It's pretty clear to me that Tony Sparano and Todd Haley had success in Dallas due to ONE reason:

Sean Payton.

Both of those guys haven't done dick since moving on from the Cowboys. After seeing Haley's play calling with the Chiefs and now Pittsburgh, I'm pretty sure he was another in the long line Peter Principle'd coaches, if not outright and pure nepotism.
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