Chiefs Bob Sutton sucks, say Jets fans - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 01-15-2013, 03:03 AM

http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/...he-kansas-city

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Goodness gracious, what an awful decision that would be for the Chiefs.

You probably remember Sutton's run as Jets defensive coordinator under Eric Mangini from 2006 to 2008. The Jets never had a defense ranked higher than 16th. The scheme was unimaginative.

Sutton didn't blitz much, and when he did, it was terribly designed. This all led to a demotion when Rex Ryan came aboard.

As you all know, playing with largely the same personnel and without the best player Sutton had, Kris Jenkins, for most of the year the Jets had the number one defense in the league the year after Sutton left the defensive coordinator post.

With all of the good coaches the Jets have on defense, Andy Reid is going to hire the one bad coach.

**BossChief** · 12-28-2013, 12:06 PM

Hopefully, Rex is still available when we send Sutton to the glue factory.

Fritz88 · 12-28-2013, 12:10 PM

I doubt Sutton is fired after this season. He'll be around next year.
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Pasta Little Brioni · 12-28-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

4 year "rebuild" under Pioli post Herm back to a year 1 rebuild excuse for Andy Reid

so 8 year rebuild plan total. So by year 4 of Andy Reid we can expect Super Bowl! yay!

Yeah he only got us plus 9 wins this year...can his ass

**BossChief** · 12-28-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I doubt Sutton is fired after this season. He'll be around next year.
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The players have regressed under his coaching.

**notorious** · 12-28-2013, 12:26 PM

Deep coverage and no pressure on the QB has buried this defense.

No big deal, just the 2 most important components of a defense.

milkman · 12-28-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The players have regressed under his coaching.

No they haven't.

They have fatigued, and Kendrick Lewis' lack of ability has truley been exposed.

splatbass · 12-28-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

I have a life and its not about ****ing sitting on forum and counting how many post I have. So who gives a shit they had a couple 5 sack games! Teams have figured it out and your dumb ass coordinator hasn't. They haven't done shit in the last eight games and most likely it will be our demise in the playoffs. Your just another Gullible Homer Chief Fan

And you're just another guy that doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

**dannybcaitlyn** · 12-28-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

And you're just another guy that doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

Yes ex.

I go to YOUR moms house for a late night creep.

You're Gay!

Happy!

J/K

splatbass · 12-28-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

Yes ex.

I go to YOUR moms house for a late night creep.

You're Gay!

Happy!

J/K

Wow, you are illiterate and juvenile.

splatbass · 12-28-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

4 year "rebuild" under Pioli post Herm back to a year 1 rebuild excuse for Andy Reid

so 8 year rebuild plan total. So by year 4 of Andy Reid we can expect Super Bowl! yay!

When one regime ends a new rebuild starts. You can't just add them together. Reid and Dorsey are not responsible for what happened prior to 2013.

You can't spend your life dwelling on the past and letting it affect the present negatively. You learn from your mistakes, then move on. We started new when they hired Reid and Dorsey. Anything that happened before that is done and can't be changed, so there is no point in obsessing over it.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 12-28-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The Cowboys defense has gotten worse under Monte Kiffen, but they were still crap with Rob Ryan running it.

Personnel makes a difference.

We need depth in the front 7, and a free safety who doesn't make you pay when you don't get to the QB when you blitz.

I agreed Milk Personnel does make a difference. Just think we have five probowlers on defense, actually six if you count flowers(ha). So six of the eleven on the field are probowlers. That's more then half. Probably more then any other team in the league and we sink from a top five defense to probably mid-late twenties in a eight week span. That's what pisses me off. I wonder in the History of the NFL has that ever been done. We've given up the second most yardage in that span, only the cowboys have given up more. I agree with you the D-line is gassed, its Bobs job to rotate the players for breathers. I know the depth isn't great, but throw in some fresh legs. I think powe could hold his own for a few plays. Other teams are finding ways around it. I'll throw this in there even though it may not mean shit to some. JAWS was on NFL matchup this morning talking about the Chiefs Defense. He said Sutton man press Defense is too predictable and teams are all over it. He said its fixable but he needs to adjust. How many weeks now since the first time we were killed on crossing patterns and its still happening.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 12-28-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Wow, you are illiterate and juvenile.

Love it!

Mr. Laz · 12-28-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I doubt Sutton is fired after this season. He'll be around next year.
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I don't think Reid is a quick fired type guy.

Coaches will have to suck for several years before any firings happen.

inability to adjust doesn't bode well for Sutton though

Have we developed a quality corner under Emmit Thomas?

I believe Thomas inherited Flowers and Carr.

milkman · 12-28-2013, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

I agreed Milk Personnel does make a difference. Just think we have five probowlers on defense, actually six if you count flowers(ha). So six of the eleven on the field are probowlers. That's more then half. Probably more then any other team in the league and we sink from a top five defense to probably mid-late twenties in a eight week span. That's what pisses me off. I wonder in the History of the NFL has that ever been done. We've given up the second most yardage in that span, only the cowboys have given up more. I agree with you the D-line is gassed, its Bobs job to rotate the players for breathers. I know the depth isn't great, but throw in some fresh legs. I think powe could hold his own for a few plays. Other teams are finding ways around it. I'll throw this in there even though it may not mean shit to some. JAWS was on NFL matchup this morning talking about the Chiefs Defense. He said Sutton man press Defense is too predictable and teams are all over it. He said its fixable but he needs to adjust. How many weeks now since the first time we were killed on crossing patterns and its still happening.

You know how it's fixable?

Zone.

Have you seen this defense when they've played zone?

Snapplez · 12-28-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

You know how it's fixable?

Zone.

Have you seen this defense when they've played zone?

El terrible

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