Chiefs *****The Armani Watts Thread***** - Page 7

Dante84 · 04-28-2018, 11:09 AM

More to come...

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Overview
Watts is a four-year starter for the Aggies, living up to the four-star recruiting status that accompanied him to A&M (he had nine interceptions as a high school senior to earn first-team Class 4A All-State notice in Forney, Texas). He led the team with three interceptions as a true freshman free safety in 2014, recording 59 tackles, two for loss, and nine pass breakups. Watts put up 126 tackles in 13 starts in his second year on the team, six of them going for losses, and he intercepted one pass while breaking up two others. Watts' junior campaign was cut short by a leg injury, but he still made 56 tackles, six for loss, two interceptions and two forced fumbles in nine starts. He earned third-team Associated Press All-American and second-team All-SEC honors in 2017, starting 12 games, posting 87 tackles, 10 for loss, four interceptions, five pass breakups, two fumble recoveries, two forced fumbles, and two blocked kicks.

Watts is a feast or famine player whose biggest faults are often self-inflicted and not due to a lack of talent or athletic ability. He's smooth and athletic and plays with the instincts and ball skills to flip the field on the next level. Watts' success as a professional will likely depend on work ethic and consistency as a tackler.

Strengths

Very impressive athletic ability
Loose and flexible through lower body with ability to swivel and swerve around the field
Possesses above-average cover skills and soft hands
Has feet and fluidity to line up in man
Plays with instincts and timing
Recognizes opportunities to undercut routes and make plays on the ball
Has twitchy burst to break on throws
Anticipates and triggers to make plays outside of his coverage area
Good leaper with high-point ability
Rangy
Slick with ability to dart into crevices and find tackle angles near the line of scrimmage
Has striking ability
Able to blow up screen passes with downhill quickness

Weaknesses

Lacking ideal size and build
Has missed games on three different occasions
Too many feast or famine plays
Inconsistent and not always trust-worthy in run support
Loses leverage in pursuit and overruns the play
Picks and chooses when to square up and tackle with technique
Will opt for ankle-diving too frequently
Urgency in pursuit is lacking from the backside
Inconsistency at finishing plays costs his defense at times
Gets caught guessing on routes

Quesadilla Joe · 04-29-2018, 05:12 PM

From Bob McGinn...

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6. ARMANI WATTS, Texas A&M (5-10 ½, 208, 4.64, 3-4): Four-year starter at both FS and SS. “I really liked him last year (2016),” said one scout. “I had him in the third round and now I’ve got him in the sixth. He did not have a good season. He can’t run. He was extremely physical last year but he wasn’t this year. Now you end up with a guy that’s 5-10 and runs 4.65.” Had 10 interceptions and six forced fumbles in 48 games (42 starts). Made 327 tackles (24 for loss) and 29 PBUs. “Tough and instinctive,” another scout said. “Good athlete. Just not real big or fast.” From Forney, Texas.

**ChiefGator** · 04-29-2018, 06:03 PM

It is not that the scouts are inherently better than you, so their opinion is better. It is that they spend twelve hours every day, pouring over the schools in their regions, talking to coaches, talking to players, watching practices, etc..

staylor26 · 04-29-2018, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

It is not that the scouts are inherently better than you, so their opinion is better. It is that they spend twelve hours every day, pouring over the schools in their regions, talking to coaches, talking to players, watching practices, etc..

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-29-2018, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

From Bob McGinn...

Get this troll garbage out of here

Dante84 · 04-30-2018, 09:45 PM

#Chiefs GM Brett Veach on Armani Watts. pic.twitter.com/goJMChpOln
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) April 30, 2018

Danguardace · 04-30-2018, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

This is an awful take.

Oh do explain.

RunKC · 05-03-2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

He’s not nearly as bad as Ron Parker though. He’ll be fine in that role.

Yes he is. Dude has good cover ability but he needs to be away from the box. Dude missed like 6 tackles in this game alone.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxPelKFaC6A

staylor26 · 05-03-2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Yes he is. Dude has good cover ability but he needs to be away from the box. Dude missed like 6 tackles in this game alone.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XxPelKFaC6A

Yes that was definitely one of his worst tackling games.

He also makes a lot of tackles and big hits though. The problem with him is consistency.

Ron Parker wasn’t inconsistent. He was just flat out an awful tackler.

staylor26 · 05-03-2018, 03:08 PM

From his scouting report on nfl.com:

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Sources Tell Us

"He will get a lot better at tackling in the pros. Veterans demand more effort as a tackler so I'm not worried about that." -- AFC area scout

Eric Berry will bring out the best in this kid. I think this scout is saying that with confidence because by all accounts Armani was a leader and good teammate.

**MahiMike** · 05-03-2018, 07:36 PM

hey is he allowed to tackle?
/Marcus Peters

CoMoChief · 05-03-2018, 07:56 PM

Most of the safeties now coming out of college can't tackle for shit because

NOBODY WRAPS UP ANYMORE

Seriously. Nothing pisses me off than seeing someone lowering their shoulder like you'd give a truck stick on Madden, only to have the most bullshittiest of stiffarms plant your ass on the turf. Ron Parker was the undisputed ****ing king of this wonderful trade.

**BossChief** · 05-03-2018, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

From his scouting report on nfl.com:

Eric Berry will bring out the best in this kid. I think this scout is saying that with confidence because by all accounts Armani was a leader and good teammate.

No way.

Berry isn’t going to make anyone a better tackler.

Watts is who he is...a guy with good ball skills, great instincts and will always go for the big hit/strip instead of going for the sure tackle.

staylor26 · 05-04-2018, 05:45 AM

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No way.

Berry isn’t going to make anyone a better tackler.

Watts is who he is...a guy with good ball skills, great instincts and will always go for the big hit/strip instead of going for the sure tackle.

I disagree. The guy knows that’s his biggest weakness and he’s said as much. I don’t expect a huge turnaround, but some of the time the effort just isn’t there and I think that will change. I still expect him to go for the strip a lot, but if that leads to big turnovers like when he stripped Kamara and Guice, I’m cool with that.

I wonder if you apply this same logic with every other prospect (he “is who he is”). It’s pretty ignorant to just assume there’s no way he will improve whatsoever in that area.

UChieffyBugger · 05-04-2018, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

It is not that the scouts are inherently better than you, so their opinion is better. It is that they spend twelve hours every day, pouring over the schools in their regions, talking to coaches, talking to players, watching practices, etc..

One scout report on Tyreek had him down as simply a "punt returner" who wouldn't be good enough as a receiver and would probably go undrafted. So sometimes these so called "scouts" get it very wrong.

tmax63 · 05-04-2018, 06:46 AM

Goes for the strip and a weakness tackling... that should give some here a little bit of wood.

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