***Official Gruden QB Camp Thread***

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

So, I put up two Hall of Fame guys and you choose to put up those three?

Yeah...

Joeckel wasn't even the best OT on his college team.

Geno was the best QB in college last year.

I'd take Geno.

You put up Hall of Fame guys and I put up guys who were the first QBs drafted in their weak QB classes. So which one of the five would you take if you believed you were choosing between a Munoz, a Roaf, a Pennington, a Druckenmiller, and a Banks? Which one of those five guys would do the most to improve your team over the long run?

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You put up Hall of Fame guys and I put up guys who were the first QBs drafted in their weak QB classes. So which one of the five would you take if you believed you were choosing between a Munoz, a Roaf, a Pennington, a Druckenmiller, and a Banks? Which one of those five guys would do the most to improve your team over the long run?

Wow. So Joeckel and Fisher = Roaf and Munoz now?



JFC are you kidding me? That is some of the stupidest shit.....i swear.....

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Wow. So Joeckel and Fisher = Roaf and Munoz now?



JFC are you kidding me? That is some of the stupidest shit.....i swear.....

Joeckel is the most ovverated OT I have ever seen.

Fisher has potential to be a solid OT for 10 years.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by penbook

Joeckel is the most ovverated OT I have ever seen.

Fisher has potential to be a solid OT for 10 years.

It's because guys like Patt here like to pretend they follow the draft, but they have no idea. DC died, so now he lurks down here.

Every****ing year there is some once in a generation, mechanically perfect OL. The fact that he latches onto these guys as future HoF's is absurd.

Last year it was Kalil.
The year before that it was Smith and Pouncy.
Before that we had once in a generation guys in Okung and Williams.


It's the same shit every year. Every year there is some OL prospect compared to a HoF and some dipshit latches onto it.

back in 2010 there were people wanting us to take Okung over Berry.......thank Jesus that didn't happen.

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

It's because guys like Patt here like to pretend they follow the draft, but they have no idea. DC died, so now he lurks down here.

Every****ing year there is some once in a generation, mechanically perfect OL. The fact that he latches onto these guys as future HoF's is absurd.

Last year it was Kalil.
The year before that it was Smith and Pouncy.
Before that we had once in a generation guys in Okung and Williams.


It's the same shit every year. Every year there is some OL prospect compared to a HoF and some dipshit latches onto it.

back in 2010 there were people wanting us to take Okung over Berry.......thank Jesus that didn't happen.

This

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Wow. So Joeckel and Fisher = Roaf and Munoz now?



JFC are you kidding me? That is some of the stupidest shit.....i swear.....

I didn't say anything like that. I'm not even the person who brought Roaf and Munoz into the discussion. Look, I'll consolidate the point I'm making in this thread for you so you don't have to even scroll back a single post to do the slightest bit of investigation.

I said that I can understand why the Chiefs would take a LT with the first pick overall in order to improve their team over the long haul. I would understand it if they think that Joeckel or Fisher is a stud and if they think that the QBs available won't succeed as high quality starters. That doesn't mean they have to think Joeckel is Munoz or that Geno Smith is Akili Smith. It could just mean they think Joeckel is Ryan Clady or Joe Staley and Geno Smith is Tony Banks or Rex Grossman. You might choose Rex Grossman over Ryan Clady, but I think Clady would help the team more in the long run.

Saccapoo introduced Munoz and Roaf to the discussion. I assume he thought he was making a brilliant point, but the number of important games won by those two guys is irrelevant if the alternative option is a guy who the people making the draft pick thinks is going to end up being a stiff. My argument is all about what the person making the pick thinks, not what you or any other die-hard Geno lover thinks is the unassailable truth. If Reid thinks he's choosing between John Tait and Peyton Manning, he'll clearly pick the QB.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You put up Hall of Fame guys and I put up guys who were the first QBs drafted in their weak QB classes. So which one of the five would you take if you believed you were choosing between a Munoz, a Roaf, a Pennington, a Druckenmiller, and a Banks? Which one of those five guys would do the most to improve your team over the long run?

I'd take Troy Aikman over Brian Jozwiak any day, all day long thank you.

Because that's the same argument you are making.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'd take Troy Aikman over Brian Jozwiak any day, all day long thank you.

Because that's the same argument you are making.

No, it's not the same argument I'm making. Strike two for you.