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Extensive Breakdown of Camp Roster by Paylor
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Kansas City Chiefs head coach Andy Reid spoke Thursday afternoon about the team's final offseason practice before gathering in St. Joseph, Mo., for the start of training camp in July. Reid updated injury statuses of Jamaal Charles, Justin Houston and Tamba Hali, plus talking about his own plans during the break. VIDEO BY DAVID EULITT, deulitt@kcstar.com deulitt@kcstar.com
By Terez A. Paylor tpaylor@kcstar.com Google+ Order Reprint of this Story The Chiefs have 90 players on their roster for training camp, which starts July 26 when rookies and quarterbacks report to Missouri Western State University in St. Joseph. Camp, however, really gets going with the first full-squad workout July 30, and the roster will shrink to 53 before the season opener Sept. 11 against the San Diego Chargers at Arrowhead Stadium. Here’s a breakdown of the camp roster by position, with analysis. *denotes projected starter Quarterbacks (4) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 7 Aaron Murray 6-1 207 25 3 Georgia 8 Kevin Hogan 6-3 218 23 R Stanford 9 Tyler Bray 6-6 215 24 4 Tennessee 11 Alex Smith* 6-4 217 32 12 Utah Analysis: Smith is coming off a career year in which he silenced many critics and emerged as a playmaker by using his superb scrambling ability. He developed a tremendous chemistry with Maclin that allowed him to make more risky throws, but he needs to build that same trust with his other receivers to fully shed the “game manager” label. The backup quarterback competition will be very competitive. Bray and Murray need to perform better than they did in organized team activities. Bray boasts a big arm but must continue to master the mental side of the position. Murray spent a week in OTAs as the No. 2 quarterback before ceding the job back to Bray. He’s a smart player who must be more accurate and needs a good camp. Hogan, meanwhile, surprised OTA observers with his anticipation and accuracy. His status as a rookie will likely keep him from winning the backup job, but he has experience with the complicated verbiage in Chiefs coach Andy Reid’s offense and has the look of a player who is worth developing long-term. Running backs (5) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 25 Jamaal Charles* 5-11 199 29 9 Texas 30 Darrin Reaves 5-10 215 23 2 UAB 32 Spencer Ware 5-10 229 24 4 LSU 34 Knile Davis 5-10 227 24 4 Arkansas 35 Charcandrick West 5-10 205 25 3 Abilene Christian Analysis: Charles is an elite talent who looked as quick as ever before his season-ending ACL injury and is the best, most complete, back on the roster when healthy. The Chiefs don’t have to rush him back because of the presence of Ware and West. Ware, a punishing downhill runner who is at his best on inside runs, is also a good blocker who caught lots of passes in OTAs and could easily share the field with West or Charles. West is a capable runner who has some wiggle and good receiving ability. He compliments Ware very well but could also share the field with Charles. Davis, a third-round pick in 2013, could be the odd man out. He is a very good kick returner with great size and top-end speed, and he has improved hands, but his penchant for fumbling has hurt his bid for more playing time. Keep an eye on Reaves, a versatile back with quickness and receiving ability who looked good in OTAs and has the look of an interesting developmental option. Fullbacks (2) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 40 Trey Millard 6-2 247 24 2 Oklahoma 42 Anthony Sherman* 5-10 242 27 6 Connecticut Analysis: Sherman is a hard-nosed, throwback type who saw his offensive playing time dip a tad in 2015. Remains a tone-setter as a worker and special-teamer. Millard has lots of good traits for a fullback — can run a bit, block and catch — but Sherman has a stranglehold on the job. Wide receivers (13) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 4 Da’Ron Brown 6-0 199 24 1 Northern Illinois 6 Seantavius Jones 6-3 200 23 1 Valdosta State 10 Rod Streater 6-2 195 28 3 Temple 12 Albert Wilson* 5-9 200 24 3 Georgia State 13 De’Anthony Thomas 5-8 176 23 3 Oregon 14 Demarcus Robinson 6-1 203 21 R Florida 15 Mike Williams 6-2 212 29 6 Syracuse 17 Chris Conley 6-3 205 23 2 Georgia 19 Jeremy Maclin* 6-0 198 28 8 Missouri 81 Tyreek Hill 5-10 185 22 R West Alabama 83 Mitch Mathews 6-5 222 25 R BYU 85 Frankie Hammond 6-1 184 26 3 Florida 89 Kashif Moore 5-9 180 27 1 Connecticut Analysis: This group is led by Maclin, who lived up to the five-year, $55 million contract he received last year. Wilson, the Chiefs’ No. 2 receiver a year ago, earned more work in the slot during OTAs and is very good with the ball in his hands but is still refining his awareness. Conley has the look of an outside receiver, as he boasts tremendous size and athleticism and has shown steady improvement. But he, like Wilson, must be more consistent catching the ball. If either falters, Streeter — a free-agent signee on a prove-it deal who is motivated after a rough few years in Oakland — could get the call. He has good size and toughness and can work as a slot or outside receiver. Robinson is a gifted fourth-round receiver with strong ball skills, but he must learn the intricacies of the offense to be a contributor this year. Hill, a fifth-round pick, was electric in OTAs and could carve out an offensive role if he keeps it up. That could leave Thomas, a diminutive player with speed who must prove he can be relied upon after an up-and-down 2015 season, in a tough spot. Williams missed all of OTAs because of a hamstring injury but has been productive and could be an sleeper candidate. It’s also make-or-break time for Hammond. Brown, Jones and Mathews could be fighting for practice-squad spots. Tight ends (5) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 80 James O’Shaughnessy 6-4 245 24 2 Illinois State 82 Brian Parker 6-4 265 24 2 Albany 84 Demetrius Harris 6-7 230 24 3 Wisconsin-Milwaukee 87 Travis Kelce* 6-5 260 26 4 Cincinnati 88 Ross Travis 6-7 235 23 1 Penn State Analysis: Kelce had a breakout 2015 season, earning his first Pro Bowl nod, and he could be primed for even better things this year. He still has some work to do to become a complete tight end — his run blocking needs to improve — but he’s easily one of the best receiving threats in the league. Who plays behind him will be interesting. The Chiefs saw enough in Harris, an athletic basketball convert, to give him an extension last fall, but he’ll have to hold off O’Shaughnessy — a fifth-round pick in 2015 who missed several games because of a foot injury — and Travis, another former basketball player who flashed throughout OTAs. Parker, meanwhile, has some upside, particularly as a blocker. Tackles (6) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 62 Curtis Feigt 6-7 314 26 0 West Virginia 69 Reid Fragel 6-8 308 25 1 Ohio State 71 Mitchell Schwartz* 6-5 320 27 5 California 72 Eric Fisher* 6-7 315 25 4 Central Michigan 74 Zach Sterup 6-9 318 24 R Nebraska 75 Jah Reid 6-7 325 28 6 Central Florida Analysis: Fisher gained more confidence and started playing with more aggressiveness last season. If he’s ever going to take the next step, this is the year. He needs to work on his technique in pass protection but he has the size and feet to be a very good left tackle. The Chiefs will also need to make a decision on his contract for 2017, so he’ll also be motivated. The starting right tackle is Schwartz, who was the Chiefs’ biggest offseason acquisition. He is steady, reliable and elite at what he does. Reid figured to work into the mix as a swing tackle or possible starter at guard, but it will be interesting to see who plays left tackle if Fisher gets hurt at some point. Guards (6) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 60 Jarrod Pughsley 6-4 310 25 1 Akron 65 Garrick Mayweather 6-2 319 21 R Fordham 73 Zach Fulton 6-5 316 24 3 Tennessee 76 Laurent Duvernay-Tardif* 6-5 321 25 3 McGill 77 Jordan Devey 6-6 320 28 3 Memphis 79 Parker Ehinger* 6-6 310 23 R Cincinnati Analysis: There will be competition at guard over the next few months. Duvernay-Tardif returns as the presumptive starter at right guard; he’s raw and still learning the game but he boasts good size, smarts and athleticism. Ehinger is a good technician who needs to get a bit stronger, but the staff liked him enough to bump him ahead of Fulton with the first team at left guard during OTAs. Fulton and Reid, who looked good in his snaps at guard last season, could factor into the mix if either presumptive starter disappoints. Also keep an eye on Pughsley, who had good enough feet to play some tackle the past two years. Centers (3) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 61 Mitch Morse* 6-6 305 24 2 Missouri 68 Drew Nowak 6-3 292 26 3 Western Michigan 77 Daniel Munyer 6-1 305 24 1 Colorado Analysis: Morse, a second-round pick a year ago, is back and ready to build on a very solid rookie season. He’s smart, tough and athletic, and has a very bright future. He’s even gotten stronger this year. He just needs to stay healthy; he had two concussions last season. Nowak started seven games with the Seahawks last year before losing his job, but he offers an experienced option. But Fulton — who started three games at center last season — could be the best backup option for Morse. His skillset fits the position well. Defensive ends (7) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 93 David King 6-4 281 26 2 Oklahoma 94 Jimmy Staten 6-3 311 25 1 Middle Tennessee 95 Niko Davis 6-5 285 26 1 Liberty 96 Jaye Howard* 6-3 301 27 5 Florida 97 Allen Bailey* 6-3 288 27 6 Miami (Fla.) 98 Nick Williams 6-4 309 26 3 Samford 99 Rakeem Nunez-Roches 6-2 307 23 2 Southern Miss Analysis: The Chiefs boast one of the best pairs of 3-4 defensive ends in Bailey and Howard, who both offer some pass-rush ability and are in the middle of their primes. The offseason return of Howard was a pleasant surprise, seeing as how he seemed prime to get a big offer on the free-agent market, but he signed a two-year deal that will allow him hit free agency again when he’s 29 and potentially get one last payday. Williams, who is built like a classic 3-4 end, was a rotational player a year ago and could take on a bigger role thanks to the retirement of Mike DeVito. Nunez-Roches, a sixth-round pick a year ago, is a gap-shooter who could also help out on passing downs. Nose tackles (3) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Years College 79 Alameda Ta’amu 6-3 348 25 3 Washington 92 Dontari Poe* 6-3 346 25 5 Memphis 95 Chris Jones 6-6 308 22 R Mississippi State Analysis: Poe dealt with some back issues that kept him out of training camp last year, but he played the entire season. He now says he feels great, and he will need to — he’s entering a contract season and is in line for a significant raise with another nice year. The Chiefs selection of Jones with their first pick adds depth to their interior defensive line and provides a contingency plan if they can’t afford to keep Poe. Jones is a great athlete with good power and a terrific frame. He can potentially play every interior position. Ta’amu is a space eater in the true nose-guard mold. Outside linebackers (8) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 46 Jonathan Massaquoi 6-2 264 28 4 Troy 50 Justin Houston* 6-3 258 27 6 Georgia 51 Frank Zombo 6-3 254 29 7 Central Michigan 52 Dadi Nicolas 6-3 235 23 R Virginia Tech 54 Dezman Moses 6-2 249 27 5 Tulane 55 Dee Ford 6-2 252 25 3 Auburn 62 Andy Mulumba 6-3 260 26 3 Eastern Michigan 91 Tamba Hali* 6-3 275 32 11 Penn State Analysis: Houston is terrific when healthy while Hali still has some juice at age 32. But both have dealt with knee issues the last few years, so it’s on Ford — a first-round pick in 2014 — to step up and become the player the Chiefs drafted him to be. If he doesn’t become a more consistent pass-rush threat, veterans Moses and Zombo will have to provide quality pass-rush reps. Nicolas, a sixth-rounder this year, has some natural pass rush skills and athleticism, but is making the conversion from a 4-3 end to a 3-4 outside linebacker and might need some time to learn. Inside linebackers (7) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 52 Tyrell Adams 6-2 228 24 1 West Georgia 53 Ramik Wilson 6-2 237 23 2 Georgia 56 Derrick Johnson* 6-3 242 33 12 Texas 57 D.J. Alexander 6-2 233 24 2 Oregon State 59 Justin March 6-0 222 23 2 Akron 62 Terrance Smith 6-2 235 23 R Florida State 90 Josh Mauga* 6-1 245 29 7 Nevada Analysis: Johnson turns 34 years old in November but he’s shown no signs of slowing down. A lighter, trimmer Johnson was fantastic in 2015 after missing practically all of the previous season because of an Achilles injury. He’ll like be joined on the inside by Mauga, a steady-but-unspectacular player who has earned defensive coordinator Bob Sutton’s trust. The Chiefs have some promising youngsters including 2015 fourth-round pick Ramik Wilson, 2015 fifth-round pick D.J. Alexander and 2015 undrafted free agent Justin March. March missed all of last season because of a meniscus injury but has consistently shown great coverage skills and could carve out a role. Wilson saw some defensive snaps last year as Mauga’s primary backup while the athletic Alexander proved to be a good special-teamer. Both need to take a step forward to hold off March and challenge Mauga for a starting job. Cornerbacks (12) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Years College 1 Deveron Carr 5-11 194 25 2 Arizona State 20 Steven Nelson 5-11 194 23 2 Oregon State 21 Eric Murray 5-11 199 22 R Minnesota 22 Marcus Peters* 6-0 197 23 2 Washington 23 Phillip Gaines* 6-0 193 25 3 Rice 24 D.J. White 5-11 193 22 R Georgia Tech 26 KeiVarae Russell 5-11 196 22 R Notre Dame 31 Marcus Cooper 6-2 192 26 4 Rutgers 39 Shannon Edwards 5-10 194 22 R Fresno State 45 Tre Jones 5-10 194 21 R Mount Union 47 Shakiel Randolph 6-3 213 22 R SMU 48 Vernon Harris 6-1 197 22 R Dartmouth Analysis: Peters will look to build on a dynamic rookie year, but it will be interesting to see whether teams test him much, especially with the uncertainty at the other corner spot caused by the offseason departure of Sean Smith. The odds-on favorite to win the position is Gaines, provided he has healed from a torn ACL sustained last September, but keep an eye on Nelson, a third-round pick a year ago who looked more confident in OTAs and was often around the ball. Cooper, meanwhile, is still looking to recapture his rookie form while the three drafted rookies — Russell, Murray and White — will have a fair shot to work their way into the mix. Safeties (6) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 27 Stevie Brown 5-11 215 29 5 Michigan 29 Eric Berry* 6-0 211 27 7 Tennessee 30 Jamell Fleming 5-11 206 27 5 Oklahoma 38 Ron Parker* 6-0 206 28 6 Newberry 43 Akeem Davis 6-1 200 26 3 Memphis 49 Daniel Sorensen 6-2 208 26 3 BYU Analysis: Berry is a team leader who looked a tad more fluid last year after beating lymphoma but still does some of his best work around the line of scrimmage. He has not signed his franchise tender, however. Parker is a versatile defender who split time at safety and nickel corner last year and will be counted on to be a reliable, steady presence in the secondary. Brown, a hard hitter with an injury history, and Sorensen, a special-teamer with upside as a nickel linebacker, could also find their way onto the field. Fleming is a helpful special-teamer but he needs to flash at a new position after having a few bad moments at corner a year ago. Specialists (3) No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Ex. College 2 P Dustin Colquitt* 6-3 210 33 12 Tennessee 5 K Cairo Santos* 5-8 160 24 4 Tulane 41 LS James Winchester* 6-3 240 26 2 Oklahoma Analysis: Santos is a fairly reliable field-goal option who improved his touchback percentage from 32 to 44 last season. Colquitt is coming off offseason knee surgery but remains one of the very best in the game. Winchester beat out Andrew East for the starting job last August and was solid, aside from a few blips late in the season.
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Thanks for the effort, Roundup... but its apparently a repost
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Don't mean it isn't worthy of its own thread.
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We really SHOULD have a damn good OL now. Those guys are all huge.
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Schwartz' presence is going to help in so many ways
The O line is going to go from something we used to beat our heads against the wall about, to a genuine strength IMO Fisher finally looked legit last year, and is in his second straight full strength offseason Ehinger might get manhandled here and there, but is a genuine technician who will get plenty of help Morse was out.standing. for a rookie, is another year stronger and wont have to overthink things as much LDT... flashes plenty of skill and I just dont see any reason to expect anything but continued improvement Schwartz can make a strong case as the best RT in the game |
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Does the beginning of camp mean that there will be football threads in a football forum?
I put together a Chiefs twitter list last year. It needs to be updated. I will work on that Monday/Tuesday. https://twitter.com/RMSWeather/lists/chiefs
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CB is still scary. Hope Peters continues and does t slump, hope Gaines can come in and play well. Does Nelson come in and do well? Losing Smith is gonna hurt some.
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My ultimate darkhorse surprise member of the right 53 is... Marcus Cooper
His story is a redeemable one, he displayed all of the raw athleticism and playmaking ability you could want... but the key word is raw OCs soon picked up on that lack of refinement, scorched his confidence and he was rightly yanked from the playbook almost entirely But if there isnt some kind of coachability issue with him, I see no why reason why that time off didnt help him and its clear this is his last shot with KC |
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Excellent. Thanks for posting....hadn't seen it. thread worthy for sure.
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Backup QB is going to be a fun battle to watch.
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Our girls are looking pretty sweet overall, sure dont remember seeing them in the tryouts thread...
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