Chiefs ESPN Perfect Team Fits for NFL Draft's Top Qb's

Couch-Potato · 04-18-2017, 03:15 PM

Starting to believe in an Andy Reid Coached, Alex Smith Mentored, Patrick Mahomes as our QOTF...

Per ESPN's article, "Perfect Team Fits for NFL Draft's Top Qb's"

Deshaun Watson - Cleveland
Mitchell Trubisky - SF
DeShone Kizer - Arizona
Patrick Mahomes - Kansas City

The Player: Mahomes can make any throw, from any platform. He has amazing power in that arm. In the game against Oklahoma, Mahomes (6-foot-2, 225 pounds) tossed a 60-plus-yard pass for a touchdown ... off his back foot. Ridiculous stuff. Playing in a wide-open, pass-first offense at Tech, Mahomes (5,052 yards passing, 41 touchdowns) often saw soft zone coverage and three-man rushes. That makes him tough to grade. Think of seven-on-seven drills in which the quarterback can just float for a bit, find a target and then sling it.

Mahomes' technique and mechanics have to improve. His arm talent can get him into trouble. He threw a red zone interception against Texas when he tried to squeeze the ball in on a corner route. That was too much confidence and a poor decision. But if Mahomes gets coached up, watch out. There's no doubt that he has the raw talent to eventually be a starter in the league.

The Fit: Kansas City Chiefs. Andy Reid can coach quarterbacks, and I really like the idea of Mahomes playing in Kansas City's system. Yes, the Chiefs still run a West Coast-based offense, and they don't take an extreme amount of vertical shots down the field. But arm strength such as Mahomes' is valuable on intermediate throws between the hashes too (see the example below).

Look at the velocity on this throw and the anticipation from Mahomes to find the open window in the coverage. With Mahomes reading the linebacker, he quickly transitions off the run-action to throw the inside pop pass. He has to really sling this as the backside safety closes on the route. Because of Mahomes' arm strength, the safety can't get there in time, and the Red Raiders put six on the board.

It would be to Mahomes' benefit to land in a system such as Kansas City's, which requires the quarterback to play with consistent footwork, timing and technique. With Alex Smith holding down the No. 1 job in Kansas City for the foreseeable future, there would be plenty of time for Mahomes to improve his fundamentals while working with Reid, one of the game's best QB gurus.

teedubya · 04-18-2017, 03:21 PM

Great face, bro.

Mr. Laz · 04-18-2017, 03:25 PM

We're ****ed.

There is just way too much press about us taking Mahomes for it to ever happen. Even if it's true and we really do want him, every team in the league will know that they have to jump ahead of us to get him.

The only way we get him now is to surprise other teams by trading up for him.

Deberg_1990 · 04-18-2017, 03:26 PM

i see Ryan Tannehill upside!

dj56dt58 · 04-18-2017, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

"Perfect Team Fits for NFL Draft's Top Qb's"

Cleveland

Said no one ever

**notorious** · 04-18-2017, 04:04 PM

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With Alex Smith holding down the No. 1 job in Kansas City for the foreseeable future,

ModSocks · 04-18-2017, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

We're ****ed.

There is just way too much press about us taking Mahomes for it to ever happen. Even if it's true and we really do want him, every team in the league will know that they have to jump ahead of us to get him.

The only way we get him now is to surprise other teams by trading up for him.

My thoughts as well. Too much hype around him now, no way we get him. Way too much smoke.

staylor26 · 04-18-2017, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

My thoughts as well. Too much hype around him now, no way we get him. Way too much smoke.

How is it any different from the Broncos/Lynch situation last year?

RunKC · 04-18-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

How is it any different from the Broncos/Lynch situation last year?

Mahomes is a better prospect. Teams really like his personality.

He's going high in the draft.

ModSocks · 04-18-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

How is it any different from the Broncos/Lynch situation last year?

You mean a Qb that we didn't draft? Exactly.

staylor26 · 04-18-2017, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

You mean a Qb that we didn't draft? Exactly.

I'm talking about all the smoke with one team and a QB.

It doesn't mean we won't get him, is my point.

staylor26 · 04-18-2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Mahomes is a better prospect. Teams really like his personality.

He's going high in the draft.

After listening to DJ, Bucky, and Zerlein, I'm convinced the hype is somewhat exaggerated. I don't believe that he's a top 15 lock. I just don't.

ModSocks · 04-18-2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I'm talking about all the smoke with one team and a QB.

It doesn't mean we won't get him, is my point.

No, of course it doesn't.

But i'm a Chiefs fan. I expect disappointment.

staylor26 · 04-18-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

No, of course it doesn't.

But i'm a Chiefs fan. I expect disappointment.

Fair enough

Halfcan · 04-18-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

It should read- " With Alex Smith holding down the number 1 spot until he retires at the same age George Blanda was..."

We are never getting rid of this guy.

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Couch-Potato MVP Join Date: Jan 2015 Casino cash: $3163065	ESPN Perfect Team Fits for NFL Draft's Top Qb's Starting to believe in an Andy Reid Coached, Alex Smith Mentored, Patrick Mahomes as our QOTF... Per ESPN's article, "Perfect Team Fits for NFL Draft's Top Qb's" Deshaun Watson - Cleveland Mitchell Trubisky - SF DeShone Kizer - Arizona Patrick Mahomes - Kansas City The Player: Mahomes can make any throw, from any platform. He has amazing power in that arm. In the game against Oklahoma, Mahomes (6-foot-2, 225 pounds) tossed a 60-plus-yard pass for a touchdown ... off his back foot. Ridiculous stuff. Playing in a wide-open, pass-first offense at Tech, Mahomes (5,052 yards passing, 41 touchdowns) often saw soft zone coverage and three-man rushes. That makes him tough to grade. Think of seven-on-seven drills in which the quarterback can just float for a bit, find a target and then sling it. Mahomes' technique and mechanics have to improve. His arm talent can get him into trouble. He threw a red zone interception against Texas when he tried to squeeze the ball in on a corner route. That was too much confidence and a poor decision. But if Mahomes gets coached up, watch out. There's no doubt that he has the raw talent to eventually be a starter in the league. The Fit: Kansas City Chiefs. Andy Reid can coach quarterbacks, and I really like the idea of Mahomes playing in Kansas City's system. Yes, the Chiefs still run a West Coast-based offense, and they don't take an extreme amount of vertical shots down the field. But arm strength such as Mahomes' is valuable on intermediate throws between the hashes too (see the example below). Look at the velocity on this throw and the anticipation from Mahomes to find the open window in the coverage. With Mahomes reading the linebacker, he quickly transitions off the run-action to throw the inside pop pass. He has to really sling this as the backside safety closes on the route. Because of Mahomes' arm strength, the safety can't get there in time, and the Red Raiders put six on the board. It would be to Mahomes' benefit to land in a system such as Kansas City's, which requires the quarterback to play with consistent footwork, timing and technique. With Alex Smith holding down the No. 1 job in Kansas City for the foreseeable future, there would be plenty of time for Mahomes to improve his fundamentals while working with Reid, one of the game's best QB gurus.
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