NFL Draft The chase for the #1 overall pick - Page 3

Garcia Bronco · 12-03-2012, 12:31 PM

The talent at 10 is just as good as the talent at 1. they aren't that far apart...so WTF does it really matter?

Mile High Mania · 12-03-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The talent at 10 is just as good as the talent at 1. they aren't that far apart...so WTF does it really matter?

Yeah, I'm kinda thinking that if things roll a certain way - if you're picking at #3-5, maybe you have better chances of trading down and staying within the top 12 in R1, but getting another R2. You could still likely get one of the top QBs.

Unless you just have major wood for Geno... this could be a good thing.

keg in kc · 12-03-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, I'm kinda thinking that if things roll a certain way - if you're picking at #3-5, maybe you have better chances of trading down and staying within the top 12 in R1, but getting another R2. You could still likely get one of the top QBs.

If the talent is really 'just the same' then why would anybody want to trade up?

Mile High Mania · 12-03-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

If the talent is really 'just the same' then why would anybody want to trade up?

Guess it would just depend on needs and the players sitting there.

**RealSNR** · 12-03-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The talent at 10 is just as good as the talent at 1. they aren't that far apart...so WTF does it really matter?

It's just as good until Geno and Wilson are both gone.

Then it goes back to Aaron Murray and Matt Barkley.

No me gusta

RUSH · 12-03-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If we tie with the Raiders.....who wins the tie breaker?

Pretty sure it will be the Raiders. Look at their remaining schedule, it's pathetic and I don't see them beating anyone but the Chiefs. Their sos will be low. And it's currently weaker than ours without even accounting for their remaining schedule. I think it's like .490 right now and ours is in the low 500s.

That game against the Raiders will be the most important Chief game in a LONG time.

keg in kc · 12-03-2012, 12:49 PM

I can't really fault them for that. I wouldn't have taken Kapernick, either, not in the range we're talking about.

**alanm** · 12-03-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I can't really fault them for that. I wouldn't have taken Kapernick, either, not in the range we're talking about.

He was taken late in the 2nd rnd last year. They knew then we needed a QB. Who did we take in the 2nd that's even seeing the field?

Mile High Mania · 12-03-2012, 12:52 PM

Drafts are funny though, especially when you look at the top of the draft... hell, the rookie cap makes things much easier for teams. And, if you have a big need at a given position (say QB) and you take him 10-12 spots higher than the experts project, so be it. If that's your need - go fill it.

**Rain Man** · 12-03-2012, 09:16 PM

The next two weeks loom large for us.

**BossChief** · 12-03-2012, 11:21 PM

The thought of Geno Smith in silver and black makes me sick.

We need to lose these next two games really badly.

AussieChiefsFan · 12-03-2012, 11:54 PM

KC (2-10) - (2-3 WINS)
LOSS @ Browns
50/50 @ Raiders
LOSS VS Colts
LOSS @ Broncos

Jags (2-10) - (2-5 WINS)
50/50 VS Jets
50/50 @ Dolphins
LOSS VS Patriots
50/50 @ Titans

Eagles (3-9) - (3-4 WINS)
50/50 @ Bucs
LOSS VS Bengals
LOSS VS Redskins
LOSS @ Giants

Raiders (3-9) - (3-6 WINS)
LOSS VS Broncos
50/50 VS Chiefs
50/50 @ Panthers
50/50 @ Chargers

Panthers (3-9) - (3-5 WINS, ALTHOUGH I DONT THINK THEY'RE A THREAT)
LOSS @ Falcons
50/50 @ Chargers
50/50 VS Raiders
LOSS @ Saints

Browns (4-8) - (4-6 WINS)
50/50 VS Chiefs
LOSS VS Redskins
LOSS @ Broncos
50/50 (DEPENDING ON BIG BEN) @ Steelers

Cardinals (4-8) - (4 WINS)
LOSS @ Seahawks
LOSS Lions
LOSS Bears
LOSS @ 49ers

Titans (4-8) - (5-6 WINS)
LOSS @ Colts
WIN VS Jets
LOSS @ Packers
50/50 VS Jags

Lions (4-8) - (5 WINS, BUT AGAIN NOT A THREAT AS FAR AS GETTING GENO GOES)
LOSS @ Packers
WIN @ Cardinals
LOSS VS Falcons
LOSS VS Bears

Chargers (4-8) - (4-7 WINS)
LOSS @ Steelers
50/50 VS Panthers
50/50 @ Jets
50/50 Raiders

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-03-2012, 11:56 PM

Current 2013 NFL Draft order – 12/3/12

With just four weeks to go in the 2012 NFL season, it’s likely going to go down to the last week of the season to see who will own the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. The current draft order is below along with the tiebreaker, which is opponent’s win/loss record:

1. Kansas City – 2-10 (.505)
2. Jacksonville – 2-10 (.552)
3. Oakland – 3-9 (.464)
4. Philadelphia – 3-9 (.510)
5. Carolina – 3-9 (.516)
6. San Diego – 4-8 (.484)
7. Cleveland – 4-8 (.516)
8. Tennessee – 4-8 (.536)
9. Arizona – 4-8 (.552)
10. Detroit – 4-8 (.563)
11. Buffalo – 5-7 (.490)
12. New Orleans – 5-7 (.503)
13. Miami – 5-7 (.510)
14. New York Jets – 5-7 (.516)
15. St. Louis – 5-6-1 (.526)
16. Tampa Bay – 6-6 (.466)
17. St. Louis (from Washington) – 6-6 (.497)
18. Dallas – 6-6 (.516)
19. Minnesota – 6-6 (.531)
20. Cincinnati – 7-5 (.453)
21. Pittsburgh – 7-5 (.464)
22. Seattle – 7-5 (.495)
23. New York Giants – 7-5 (.513)
24. Indianapolis – 8-4 (.469)
25. Chicago – 8-4 (.495)
26. Green Bay – 8-4 (.510)
27. San Francisco – 8-3-1 (.495)
28. Denver – 9-3 (.448)
29. Baltimore – 9-3 (.500)
30. New England – 9-3 (.510)
31. Atlanta – 11-1 (.396)
32. Houston – 11-1 (.500)

AussieChiefsFan · 12-03-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Current 2013 NFL Draft order – 12/3/12

With just four weeks to go in the 2012 NFL season, it’s likely going to go down to the last week of the season to see who will own the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. The current draft order is below along with the tiebreaker, which is opponent’s win/loss record:

1. Kansas City – 2-10 (.505)
2. Jacksonville – 2-10 (.552)
3. Oakland – 3-9 (.464)
4. Philadelphia – 3-9 (.510)
5. Carolina – 3-9 (.516)
6. San Diego – 4-8 (.484)
7. Cleveland – 4-8 (.516)
8. Tennessee – 4-8 (.536)
9. Arizona – 4-8 (.552)
10. Detroit – 4-8 (.563)
11. Buffalo – 5-7 (.490)
12. New Orleans – 5-7 (.503)
13. Miami – 5-7 (.510)
14. New York Jets – 5-7 (.516)
15. St. Louis – 5-6-1 (.526)
16. Tampa Bay – 6-6 (.466)
17. St. Louis (from Washington) – 6-6 (.497)
18. Dallas – 6-6 (.516)
19. Minnesota – 6-6 (.531)
20. Cincinnati – 7-5 (.453)
21. Pittsburgh – 7-5 (.464)
22. Seattle – 7-5 (.495)
23. New York Giants – 7-5 (.513)
24. Indianapolis – 8-4 (.469)
25. Chicago – 8-4 (.495)
26. Green Bay – 8-4 (.510)
27. San Francisco – 8-3-1 (.495)
28. Denver – 9-3 (.448)
29. Baltimore – 9-3 (.500)
30. New England – 9-3 (.510)
31. Atlanta – 11-1 (.396)
32. Houston – 11-1 (.500)

Damnit oakland!!

Garcia Bronco · 12-04-2012, 12:34 AM

Holy snap..our entire division is drafting in the top ten as of today

View Poll Results: Which team will win the rights to #1 overall?
Chiefs (2-10)	112	61.20%
Jags (2-10)	56	30.60%
Eagles (3-9)	6	3.28%
Panthers (3-9)	1	0.55%
Raiders (3-9)	16	8.74%
Browns (4-8)	1	0.55%
Cardinals (4-8)	1	0.55%
Titans (4-8)	1	0.55%
Lions (4-8)	1	0.55%
Chargers (4-8)	3	1.64%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 183. You may not vote on this poll

12-03-2012, 12:49 PM	#7
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12-03-2012, 12:52 PM	#9
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3477229	Drafts are funny though, especially when you look at the top of the draft... hell, the rookie cap makes things much easier for teams. And, if you have a big need at a given position (say QB) and you take him 10-12 spots higher than the experts project, so be it. If that's your need - go fill it. __________________
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12-03-2012, 09:16 PM	#10
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12-03-2012, 11:21 PM	#11
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12-03-2012, 12:31 PM	#1
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $5073136	The talent at 10 is just as good as the talent at 1. they aren't that far apart...so WTF does it really matter?
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12-03-2012, 11:54 PM	#12
AussieChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Casino cash: $6338501	KC (2-10) - (2-3 WINS) LOSS @ Browns 50/50 @ Raiders LOSS VS Colts LOSS @ Broncos Jags (2-10) - (2-5 WINS) 50/50 VS Jets 50/50 @ Dolphins LOSS VS Patriots 50/50 @ Titans Eagles (3-9) - (3-4 WINS) 50/50 @ Bucs LOSS VS Bengals LOSS VS Redskins LOSS @ Giants Raiders (3-9) - (3-6 WINS) LOSS VS Broncos 50/50 VS Chiefs 50/50 @ Panthers 50/50 @ Chargers Panthers (3-9) - (3-5 WINS, ALTHOUGH I DONT THINK THEY'RE A THREAT) LOSS @ Falcons 50/50 @ Chargers 50/50 VS Raiders LOSS @ Saints Browns (4-8) - (4-6 WINS) 50/50 VS Chiefs LOSS VS Redskins LOSS @ Broncos 50/50 (DEPENDING ON BIG BEN) @ Steelers Cardinals (4-8) - (4 WINS) LOSS @ Seahawks LOSS Lions LOSS Bears LOSS @ 49ers Titans (4-8) - (5-6 WINS) LOSS @ Colts WIN VS Jets LOSS @ Packers 50/50 VS Jags Lions (4-8) - (5 WINS, BUT AGAIN NOT A THREAT AS FAR AS GETTING GENO GOES) LOSS @ Packers WIN @ Cardinals LOSS VS Falcons LOSS VS Bears Chargers (4-8) - (4-7 WINS) LOSS @ Steelers 50/50 VS Panthers 50/50 @ Jets 50/50 Raiders
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12-03-2012, 11:56 PM	#13
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3496009	Current 2013 NFL Draft order – 12/3/12 With just four weeks to go in the 2012 NFL season, it’s likely going to go down to the last week of the season to see who will own the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. The current draft order is below along with the tiebreaker, which is opponent’s win/loss record: 1. Kansas City – 2-10 (.505) 2. Jacksonville – 2-10 (.552) 3. Oakland – 3-9 (.464) 4. Philadelphia – 3-9 (.510) 5. Carolina – 3-9 (.516) 6. San Diego – 4-8 (.484) 7. Cleveland – 4-8 (.516) 8. Tennessee – 4-8 (.536) 9. Arizona – 4-8 (.552) 10. Detroit – 4-8 (.563) 11. Buffalo – 5-7 (.490) 12. New Orleans – 5-7 (.503) 13. Miami – 5-7 (.510) 14. New York Jets – 5-7 (.516) 15. St. Louis – 5-6-1 (.526) 16. Tampa Bay – 6-6 (.466) 17. St. Louis (from Washington) – 6-6 (.497) 18. Dallas – 6-6 (.516) 19. Minnesota – 6-6 (.531) 20. Cincinnati – 7-5 (.453) 21. Pittsburgh – 7-5 (.464) 22. Seattle – 7-5 (.495) 23. New York Giants – 7-5 (.513) 24. Indianapolis – 8-4 (.469) 25. Chicago – 8-4 (.495) 26. Green Bay – 8-4 (.510) 27. San Francisco – 8-3-1 (.495) 28. Denver – 9-3 (.448) 29. Baltimore – 9-3 (.500) 30. New England – 9-3 (.510) 31. Atlanta – 11-1 (.396) 32. Houston – 11-1 (.500)
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12-04-2012, 12:34 AM	#15
Garcia Bronco No Keys, No Problem Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver Casino cash: $5073136	Holy snap..our entire division is drafting in the top ten as of today
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