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Old 08-14-2017, 08:54 AM  
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Chargers fail to draw a bigger crowd than L.A. Galaxy for their preseason debut
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...eseason-debut/

Yes, an NFL team playing in a soccer stadium can't outdraw the soccer team that plays there

Despite the fact that it's only preseason, when teams move there's usually a certain buzz around a team's first game in a new stadium. The Los Angeles Chargers' move, however, has been controversial from the jump. For their preseason opener on Sunday night, 21,054 fans went to the StubHub Center (which has a capacity of 27,000) to see the Chargers get routed by the Seahawks. For comparison, the Los Angeles Galaxy of the MLS had 25,667 in attendance the previous night.

The Chargers' welcome to L.A. has been significantly less than warm so far. Between them getting booed at the Staples Center in January and their new logo being mocked into the ground upon its unveiling, the Chargers will really need to work to get into the good graces of the city. Obviously it isn't impossible, and winning cures all, but it's no easy task in the vaunted AFC West. Perhaps the city will warm up to the Chargers in the near future, but with the Rams' move already being controversial, it shouldn't come as a surprise that fickle L.A. fans are wary of another team.

StubHub Center being a temporary home may also be a factor. Soccer games are played in football stadiums with some frequency, but the opposite is rarely true. The Chargers will be sharing a new palatial home with the Rams in Inglewood that is expected to be ready come 2020. It will have a capacity of 70,240. Hopefully the Chargers have a bigger following by then, because 20,000 people would look awfully lonely in that space.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:24 PM   #31
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:28 PM   #32
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This is all far fetched of course, but you wonder if the Chargers should have considered Portland. I think I read that they are the biggest city that doesn't already have an NFL team within 3 hours' drive. They would actually have fans there. They could have gotten their own stadium. If they could have done some kind of a swap to move to the NFC west, they'd have huge built-in rivalries with Seattle and San Francisco.

I know none of it makes sense now, but none of it made sense in leaving SD, leaving for LA, or SD letting the team walk in the first place. It's all a big cluster anyway.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:43 PM   #33
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:45 PM   #34
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But it's an intimate setting! Which matters to whom? The people who aren't sitting way up in the bleachers? For everyone else - don't you generally want more fans cheering behind you, not less?
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:47 PM   #35
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My cousin insisted on buying some $180 tickets for the Chiefs/Chargers game. I told him to just wait until the day before and they'll be half that. Worst case scenario they're the same or slightly higher. Best-case scenario they'll be much cheaper.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #36
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LA doesn't support football teams well period. And they have absolutely no love for the Chargers. The only time most LA fans think about the Chargers at all is when they're forced to watch some shitty local SD game instead of a good national game.

This will be a hilarious disaster by mid-season at latest.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:49 PM   #37
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:57 PM   #38
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It's going to be a situation where the visiting team will have so many expatriates living in LA that it will be like a road game every single time.

When the Chiefs played in San Diego, I would say conservatively that they had 15,000 fans at every game. Move it to LA where you'll pick up those fans plus those like me who live a bit far from SD and we'll flood the secondary market and turn that soccer stadium RED.
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Old 08-14-2017, 01:01 PM   #39
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But it's an intimate setting! Which matters to whom? The people who aren't sitting way up in the bleachers? For everyone else - don't you generally want more fans cheering behind you, not less?
"Intimate Setting". Gimmicky bullshit to save face for the embarrassing fact that NFL games will be played in a 27K venue for the next 3 seasons.

Spanos couldn't have ****ed himself any harder even if he bought himself a horse-cock dildo.

He went scorched earth policy the moment the country learned of the Rams' intention to move to L.A in order to strong arm the city to pay for his shit. He put a ****ing lawyer in front of the city as his go-between who ignited anger in the fan base, by design of course.

Once the Carson project was shot down he came crawling back, removed his lawyer buddy from the public's eye and put together a poorly managed, half hearted effort into a downtown SD stadium that would cost almost 2billion to build along with a massive logistics nightmare. Essentially, he aimed for the most difficult and least likely scenario that would yield a new stadium. It failed at the voting booth as expected, he took his shit and left.

Now the Rams have moved into San Diego's T.V market, the Raiders have moved into San Diego's radio market, the majority of the fan base either hates the Chargers or have gone apathetic and L.A has shown zero willingness to support the team thus far.

L.A told him not to move. The NFL told him not to move. The entire ****ing nation told him not to move and he did it anyway.

Now he has no fan base in L.A, no fan base in San Diego, his Californian rivals have moved into the market he left behind and they just got a 48-17 beat down in a 20K venue half filled with rival team fans.

I'm sorry but... .

Get ****ed, Spanos. He couldn't have ****ed this situation up any worse.
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Its disgraceful, Spanos and the NFL are going to be regretting this for a loooooong time
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Old 08-14-2017, 01:12 PM   #41
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Oh and i left off the logo reveal debacle where they basically ripped off the Dodgers' "LA" logo and put a bolt in it. Oh man, the hilarity that ensued after that **** up....

Even their stupid marketing slogan for L.A..."The fight for L.A". Oh, gtfo with that shit Dean.
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:36 PM   #42
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My cousin insisted on buying some $180 tickets for the Chiefs/Chargers game. I told him to just wait until the day before and they'll be half that. Worst case scenario they're the same or slightly higher. Best-case scenario they'll be much cheaper.
I think I might just show up day of and scalp them for like $10
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Its disgraceful, Spanos and the NFL are going to be regretting this for a loooooong time
Agree . I don't revel in this at all. I know spanos is a jerk but they basically killed a franchise. I am a football fan so it's not a good thing to me.
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Its too bad because if they had the rams get established first they could have brought a 2nd team under the right circumstances in and done well. 2 well run teams could succeed in LA.
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It's going to be a situation where the visiting team will have so many expatriates living in LA that it will be like a road game every single time.

When the Chiefs played in San Diego, I would say conservatively that they had 15,000 fans at every game. Move it to LA where you'll pick up those fans plus those like me who live a bit far from SD and we'll flood the secondary market and turn that soccer stadium RED.


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