Cardinals ***Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread part II*** - Page 3

**BigRedChief** · 06:41 PM

Original thread was getting to large for the board

2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014 Central Division title and NLCS series win (so far)

This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.

Only 1 losing season since 2000.

Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.

Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.

Made the NLCS 8 times

Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.

60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.

Miles · 07-31-2014, 07:16 PM

Losing Craig stings a bit from what he has done in the past but can't help thinking he might be damaged goods like Freese. Lackey has been pretty solid since TJ surgery and that $500k team option could play out well. Also has a reputation for being a dick but from what I recall much of that was from his time in Boston when he was pitching poorly with a bad elbow.

Mi_chief_fan · 07-31-2014, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles

Losing Craig stings a bit from what he has done in the past but can't help thinking he might be damaged goods like Freese. Lackey has been pretty solid since TJ surgery and that $500k team option could play out well. Also has a reputation for being a dick but from what I recall much of that was from his time in Boston when he was pitching poorly with a bad elbow.

This team was missing some attitude. Just got a triple dose of it. Glad Mo finally kicked a little ass.

Marcellus · 07-31-2014, 07:36 PM

Mo pretty much just kicked them all in the junk and said wake the **** up.

**BigRedChief** · 07-31-2014, 08:54 PM

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Wifes are best friends too. Saw a piece on Fox sports Midwest about how close they are.

The clubhouse is just going to have to move on. They have done nothing to warrant a don't touch anyone, we are rolling along great approach.

You have to give it up for Miller. It was his best game in a long time. He made a couple of bad pitches that went year but got it back together. He was moving the ball well all around the zone.

Marcellus · 07-31-2014, 09:00 PM

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You have to give it up for Miller. It was his best game in a long time. He made a couple of bad pitches that went year but got it back together. He was moving the ball well all around the zone.

I will give him that for sure.

**BigRedChief** · 07-31-2014, 09:25 PM

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Mo pretty much just kicked them all in the junk and said wake the **** up.

Yep, this team needed to be kicked in the ass. They need to respond like Miller did today. Best buddy gets traded, go out and pitch your best game maybe all year.

Some of Matheny's comments and reactions in the dugout to OT's homer concerns me a little. But they lost a teamate, I'll reserve judgement until they get over the shock and take some inner stock of themselfs. Surely they realize they were heading no where playing like they were. Maybe they will go out and play a hard 9 now.

Pepe Silvia · 08-02-2014, 06:42 PM

We need this win in the worst way with Pittsburgh getting lucky as frick again. I thought they were a one year wonder but the bastards bounced back.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-02-2014, 06:57 PM

I tune in and of course, they have second and third with no outs and can't bring either one home.

**BigRedChief** · 08-02-2014, 09:14 PM

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We need this win in the worst way with Pittsburgh getting lucky as frick again. I thought they were a one year wonder but the bastards bounced back.

Offense showed up tonight. This Brewers team doesn't look they are ready to fade at all. Pitt is coming on. STL is the team that seems to be lacking the fire. We win tomorrow we are only a game off the lead but it does seem that we are so damn inconsistent that we are playing worse than we really are.

Pepe Silvia · 08-03-2014, 05:45 PM

Very solid start by Lackey. Fortunate to pull that one out but he kept us in the game. This offense is concerning.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-03-2014, 05:55 PM

Given that Rosenthal is giving up an astronomical 26% LD rate, the fact that only 2.5% of his flyballs are homers is ridiculously ****ing lucky.

**BigRedChief** · 08-03-2014, 08:31 PM

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Given that Rosenthal is giving up an astronomical 26% LD rate, the fact that only 2.5% of his flyballs are homers is ridiculously ****ing lucky.

I have no clue on the level of where you are at with baseball stats but it seems to me that some stats are misleading.

Rosenthal will miss location sometimes. But his fastball has a lot of movement on it so hitters don't square it up and hit a home run.

WAR stats have so many higher value than the actual worth and vice versa with over inflated WAR.

Sinkerball pitchers with a better defense will obviously have better stats but he will not be a better pitcher than one with a sub par defense.

**BigRedChief** · 08-03-2014, 08:37 PM

I know I've vented about this many times but sending Delcaso up there to pinch hit is asine. So ****ing what he is a lefty and its a RH pitching. Especially with runners in scoring position.

It's not that he is just not producing, its that he looks lost at the plate. Swings way late. He has no business on this team. At least let Robinson or Ellis take some pinch hits.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-03-2014, 09:05 PM

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I know I've vented about this many times but sending Delcaso up there to pinch hit is asine. So ****ing what he is a lefty and its a RH pitching. Especially with runners in scoring position.

It's not that he is just not producing, its that he looks lost at the plate. Swings way late. He has no business on this team. At least let Robinson or Ellis take some pinch hits.

You could make an argument that he's the worst position player in MLB. Our complete dearth of a bench bat is a sucking chest wound in this roster construction.

**BigRedChief** · 08-04-2014, 10:45 AM

I guess all the lame ass grow the **** up pouting Cardinals aren't in St. Louis
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07-31-2014, 07:16 PM	#31
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $1662400	Losing Craig stings a bit from what he has done in the past but can't help thinking he might be damaged goods like Freese. Lackey has been pretty solid since TJ surgery and that $500k team option could play out well. Also has a reputation for being a dick but from what I recall much of that was from his time in Boston when he was pitching poorly with a bad elbow.
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07-31-2014, 07:36 PM	#33
Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3082662	Mo pretty much just kicked them all in the junk and said wake the **** up.
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08-02-2014, 06:42 PM	#37
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I tune in and of course, they have second and third with no outs and can't bring either one home. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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08-03-2014, 05:45 PM	#40
Pepe Silvia MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $1904664	Very solid start by Lackey. Fortunate to pull that one out but he kept us in the game. This offense is concerning.
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08-03-2014, 05:55 PM	#41
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Given that Rosenthal is giving up an astronomical 26% LD rate, the fact that only 2.5% of his flyballs are homers is ridiculously ****ing lucky. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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08-03-2014, 08:37 PM	#43
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3139627 VARSITY	I know I've vented about this many times but sending Delcaso up there to pinch hit is asine. So ****ing what he is a lefty and its a RH pitching. Especially with runners in scoring position. It's not that he is just not producing, its that he looks lost at the plate. Swings way late. He has no business on this team. At least let Robinson or Ellis take some pinch hits. __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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08-04-2014, 10:45 AM	#45
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3139627 VARSITY	I guess all the lame ass grow the **** up pouting Cardinals aren't in St. Louis http://www.cardsconclave.com/2014/08...medium=twitter __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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