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Old 01-08-2017, 09:03 AM  
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John Dorsey reportedly candidate for Packers GM

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When the Packers face the Giants in Sunday's wild-card game, the focus will be on the field. But the future of the man who built the Packers is one that is being fiercely debated in Green Bay. How long 63-year-old general manager Ted Thompson, with two years left on his contract, continues in his current job is an open question.

Now, an intriguing name has emerged as a potential successor: Chiefs GM John Dorsey.


Dorsey, a former Packers player who cut his teeth in Green Bay under Hall of Fame architect Ron Wolf, has not yet signed a contract extension, sources said. He's in the final year of his deal, potentially opening the door to him leaving what he helped build in Kansas City to work at Lambeau Field.

Sources said Dorsey is incredibly well-regarded by the Packers executive committee, including President and CEO Mark Murphy, from his time as a scout, Director of College Scouting and Director of Football Operations. Timing would have to be perfect, but if Thompson steps away to take a senior scouting role as some involved believe, Dorsey would be in a position to step in this year.

Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have worked hand-in-hand over the past four years to build the Chiefs into a consistent winner, and they are seeded second in the AFC playoffs. The Chiefs intend to give a contract extension to Reid this offseason, a source said. After this year, Reid will be in the final year of his deal.

The list of successors to Thompson is an intriguing one. It includes Director of Football Operations Eliot Wolf, who interviewed this week for the 49ers' open GM job. While he was blocked from interviewing for the Lions' GM job last year, his interview this year means he could be leaving. There is also Russ Ball, the vice president of football administration, who is universally respected in the NFL and by the executive committee. Director of Player Personnel Brian Gutekunst and Senior Personnel Executive Alonzo Highsmith are among the talented members of the Packers' front office.

With Dorsey entering the picture, it adds some intrigue to the future of the Packers' front office.

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Old 01-08-2017, 09:44 AM   #31
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I asked Clark Hunt about Reid’s contract during training camp this year and Terez Paylor followed up asking about Dorsey. Note he doesn’t answer the second question about Dorsey’s contract.

Q: You’re going into year four with Andy, have you talked at all about a contract extension?

HUNT: “It is not a conversation that we’ve had yet. I would expect at some point we will though.”

Q: Is that the same with John, is he on a five-year deal too?

HUNT: “Well as you know our contracts are not public, but leave it as, I am very satisfied with the job that both John and Andy are doing and hope that both will be part of the organization for a long time.”

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Old 01-08-2017, 09:51 AM   #32
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Visit the Reid extension thread. Lots of bleeding in there already. Usual suspects didn't disappoint...
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:54 AM   #33
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:02 AM   #34
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Wouldn't lose a single second of sleep over it.

*Scott Pioli* is arguably the best future GM there is and there's potential that the Chiefs could upgrade if he were to take the top job. There isn't a losing situation for the Chiefs here.
Fixed so you can see what a dumbass you are, you never ever in any facet of business let a top performer leave for an unknown. Whatever you think of Chris Ballard is the same opinion every single fan and NFL front office had on Pioli, everyone knew "there wasn't losing situation for the Chiefs" if they could just land the executive of the year. How'd that work out pumpkin? Can you logic? Can you understand that the situation is the exact same and yet you seem to have learned nothing from the past? Do you understand that it's quite likely Dorsey=Belichick and Ballard=Pioli?

Enjoy not losing any sleep, bet you were out like a light when Cassel and Fat Scott rolled into town to sing you their beautiful swan song.
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What kind of playoff team GM's itself to success and then LOSES THEIR GM.

I get losing assistants and shit, but losing their own ****ing GM? Kill me now.

We keep Dorsey/Reid, and we're in a Super Bowl within the next four years. We can't lose him.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:04 AM   #36
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seriously, after emerging from the Fat Scott Pats Fraud era of Chiefs football. Where the coaching, GMing, roster moves, attracting good FAs, creating depth, developing players was COMPLETELY BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TERRIBLE. Oh and the fact that there were employee lawsuits on the administrative side of the franchise AND a MURDER SUICIDE... you would think, that we would want to keep this current success of Chiefs football as long as possible, and clearly the man behind it is Dorsey

From Pioli to Dorsey has been night and day and to even think an understudy can replicate that no matter how hot of a commodity they are is not something I want to chance.

It's literally like saying well the guy under Belichick, if we lose BB, we will be okay because we have _______ and he's getting interviews around the league. (Whoever that guy is, nobody knows or cares because he's a literal puppet, I know who he is, but its literally the Pioli role under BB, just a guy who follows BB's decisions)

Has a GM/executive that replaced a high profile GM ever continued the success? Who followed Polian in Buffalo and Indy? They were clearly terrible. Ryan Grigson is one of them, he is hot garbage, single handily ruined a franchise.
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Fixed so you can see what a dumbass you are, you never ever in any facet of business let a top performer leave for an unknown. Whatever you think of Chris Ballard is the same opinion every single fan and NFL front office had on Pioli, everyone knew "there wasn't losing situation for the Chiefs" if they could just land the executive of the year. How'd that work out pumpkin? Can you logic? Can you understand that the situation is the exact same and yet you seemed to have learned nothing from the past? Do you understand that it's quite likely Dorsey=Belichick and Ballard=Pioli?

Enjoy not losing any sleep, bet you were out like a light when Cassel and Fat Scott rolled into town to comfort you.
The difference here is that Ballard has worked with Dorsey/Reid for the last 4 years. He's far from an unknown, and if we're blocking him from interviewing for jobs in which he's the "1st, 2nd and 3rd choice" then I think he'd pretty well regarded in the building.

It's comical to see people flip shit over losing Dorsey who has become GM Jesus around here, but that it would be this massive downgrade to replace Dorsey with the guy who supplies him with the majority of the data used to make decisions.
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seriously, after emerging from the Fat Scott Pats Fraud era of Chiefs football. Where the coaching, GMing, roster moves, attracting good FAs, creating depth, developing players was COMPLETELY BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TERRIBLE. Oh and the fact that there were employee lawsuits on the administrative side of the franchise AND a MURDER SUICIDE... you would think, that we would want to keep this current success of Chiefs football as long as possible, and clearly the man behind it is Dorsey

From Pioli to Dorsey has been night and day and to even think an understudy can replicate that no matter how hot of a commodity they are is not something I want to chance.

It's literally like saying well the guy under Belichick, if we lose BB, we will be okay because we have _______ and he's getting interviews around the league. (Whoever that guy is, nobody knows or cares because he's a literal puppet, I know who he is, but its literally the Pioli role under BB, just a guy who follows BB's decisions)

Has a GM/executive that replaced a high profile GM ever continued the success? Who followed Polian in Buffalo and Indy? They were clearly terrible. Ryan Grigson is one of them, he is hot garbage, single handily ruined a franchise.
Beat you to it but great minds....
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Fixed so you can see what a dumbass you are, you never ever in any facet of business let a top performer leave for an unknown. Whatever you think of Chris Ballard is the same opinion every single fan and NFL front office had on Pioli, everyone knew "there wasn't losing situation for the Chiefs" if they could just land the executive of the year. How'd that work out pumpkin? Can you logic? Can you understand that the situation is the exact same and yet you seem to have learned nothing from the past? Do you understand that it's quite likely Dorsey=Belichick and Ballard=Pioli?

Enjoy not losing any sleep, bet you were out like a light when Cassel and Fat Scott rolled into town to sing you their beautiful swan song.


Some of you are really, really dumb. How do you know, in your own scenario, that Ballard isn't actually "Tom Brady" and "Belichick" is just riding off his work?

Oh yeah, you don't ****ing know.
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seriously, after emerging from the Fat Scott Pats Fraud era of Chiefs football. Where the coaching, GMing, roster moves, attracting good FAs, creating depth, developing players was COMPLETELY BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TERRIBLE. Oh and the fact that there were employee lawsuits on the administrative side of the franchise AND a MURDER SUICIDE... you would think, that we would want to keep this current success of Chiefs football as long as possible, and clearly the man behind it is Dorsey

From Pioli to Dorsey has been night and day and to even think an understudy can replicate that no matter how hot of a commodity they are is not something I want to chance.

It's literally like saying well the guy under Belichick, if we lose BB, we will be okay because we have _______ and he's getting interviews around the league. (Whoever that guy is, nobody knows or cares because he's a literal puppet, I know who he is, but its literally the Pioli role under BB, just a guy who follows BB's decisions)

Has a GM/executive that replaced a high profile GM ever continued the success? Who followed Polian in Buffalo and Indy? They were clearly terrible. Ryan Grigson is one of them, he is hot garbage.
If Dorsey leaves, I have no doubt it was because he was going to go to Green Bay no matter what, regardless of the contract.

I'd be shocked if Clark Hunt didn't roll out the red carpet to keep him there.

It's just a really unusual situation where Dorsey has everything he wants, but he could be offered a job with a team that would also give him everything he wants. Both teams have a good roster, good front office, a good and patient owner, and a head coach he'd love to work with. I don't think he's going anywhere but I have confidence it won't be because the Chiefs didn't give him an outstanding offer.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:12 AM   #42
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The difference here is that *Pioli* has worked with Belichick for the last 4 years. He's far from an unknown, and if we're blocking *Pioli* from interviewing for jobs in which he's the "1st, 2nd and 3rd choice" then I think he'd pretty well regarded in the NFL.

It's comical to see people flip shit over losing Belichick who has become Jesus around here, but that it would be this massive downgrade to replace Belichick with the guy who supplies him with the majority of the data used to make decisions.
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Hunt isn't Jerry Jones. He allows his GM/coach to run the franchise and doesn't interfere. He was willing once before to pay the man what it took to get him, and he'll do it again. He can't change what's in a man's heart, but you can damn sure bet he'll pay whatever it takes to keep him.
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What kind of playoff team GM's itself to success and then LOSES THEIR GM.

I get losing assistants and shit, but losing their own ****ing GM? Kill me now.

We keep Dorsey/Reid, and we're in a Super Bowl within the next four years. We can't lose him.
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I mean really, some of you are hilarious

"**** Dorsey get him out! Oh **** he's gonna leave for GREEN BAY!!!!!!!1@1!!!!!!!!"
"Andy Reid liks dik!!!!! We're number 2 seed Andy needs an extension!!!!!!!!!!!!"

You're arguing that it can only end in aids because oh em gee Scott Pioli! I mean ignore that the entire Patriots tree is aids and in no way represents the entire league but OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole thing is clickbait speculation to start and good god abort yourselves. Instead of flipping the **** out, maybe get excited that Ballard may not have the same love for our tinyhands QB that Dorsey does and would replace the ****er.
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