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Old 05-21-2019, 10:15 AM  
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:35 AM   #271
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The deal will get done by the middle of TC. Not worried one bit.
Missing some voluntary workouts in June is one thing but missing training camp sucks

That’s how guys get hurt
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:40 AM   #272
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Missing some voluntary workouts in June is one thing but missing training camp sucks

That’s how guys get hurt
It is what it is. He can also get hurt at TC.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:40 AM   #273
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Missing some voluntary workouts in June is one thing but missing training camp sucks

That’s how guys get hurt
Guys don't get in shape at training camp. They are supposed to show up in shape and ready to go.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:41 AM   #274
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Guys don't get in shape at training camp. They are supposed to show up in shape and ready to go.
Somewhat true, which is one of the reasons I’m not that concerned.

Jones has been working his ass off and is in great shape.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:45 AM   #275
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Guys don't get in shape at training camp. They are supposed to show up in shape and ready to go.
Depends on the player. Many players are disciplined enough to do this, some are lazy and unmotivated and it shows up when they get there.

That being said, I’m not worried about Chris Jones attitude. He’s gonna be ready to go when he gets there, whenever that is . . . . .
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:46 AM   #276
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Well, 67 mil. guaranteed isn’t as bad as 87 mil. (Donald’s gtd. amount) that he reportedly was after.

The Chiefs should be able to get this done. Hopefully they meet in the middle and both parties can come away happy . . . . .
If I’m Veach and I can sign him in the low-to-mid 60s, I’m taking that deal and feeling good about it.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:34 AM   #277
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He’s constantly posting stuff like this. I wouldn’t read too much into it
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:40 AM   #279
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If I’m Veach and I can sign him in the low-to-mid 60s, I’m taking that deal and feeling good about it.
Agreed.

Somewhere around $20-$22 mil. per year with around $60 mil. guaranteed would be a fair deal for Jones and a good deal for the Chiefs.

I imagine they would keep the first year base low to minimize the cap number and allow them flexibility to go out and get an impact CB, if one becomes available this year. Or they could extend Fuller and give him more up front to minimize impact in a few years when you’re paying Mahomes & Jones big money. Either way works for me.
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Somewhat true, which is one of the reasons I’m not that concerned.

Jones has been working his ass off and is in great shape.
Guys that miss some training camp get hurt in the season because they aren't in contact shape.

It happens nearly every year.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:06 AM   #283
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Guys that miss some training camp get hurt in the season because they aren't in contact shape.

It happens nearly every year.
Hence “somewhat” true. But yea it does, but it also doesn’t always happen, and not every time it happens means it was because of that.
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Yea it does, but it also doesn’t always happen, and not every time it happens means it was because of that.
Sure, outliers happen.

But when it consistently happens to guys that miss training camp then come in and pull a hammy or something, well I'd imagine theres a direct correlation
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:09 AM   #285
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Sure, outliers happen.

But when it consistently happens to guys that miss training camp then come in and pull a hammy or something, well I'd imagine theres a direct correlation
Have you done studies on this? You sure sound like you have some data.

Donald was fine last year, and Mack’s injury clearly wasn’t due to that. I’m not saying it can’t happen, but I’m not going to be overly concerned either.
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