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Old 04-25-2013, 01:13 PM   #1
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You just really don't understand, I get that. You are of the opinion that the GMs all independently arrived at the same decision. That is where we don't agree.

Oh, and I have no problem telling you who the GMs of this team have been for the last 44 years.
Jack Steadman was the last GM to draft a QB for the Chiefs in the first round, and that turned out to be such a horrible pick, the TEAM owned by the HUNTS has not picked one since.
I do understand, HemiEd. We just don't agree. There is a difference.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
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Let me put it this way. I honestly feel there's not a team in the league that would take a QB 1.1 this year.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #3
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Let me put it this way. I honestly feel there's not a team in the league that would take a QB 1.1 this year.
How many would take one at 1.10?
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:51 PM   #4
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How many would take one at 1.10?
I don't know. That's around where some of the guards are going to start going too. Would you take a guard 1.1?
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:58 PM   #5
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I don't know. That's around where some of the guards are going to start going too. Would you take a guard 1.1?
I wouldn't take a guard at 1.10.

The difference between 1.1 and 1.10 is less than the yearly salary our punter is making.

What has the best LT in football gotten the Browns? What did Jake Long get the Dolphins? How many games did the Chiefs win b/c of Will Shields, or the Jets in Faneca's prime?

What does Geno Smith hitting get the Chiefs? In contention for the SB every year. What does Geno Smith missing get the Chiefs? No worse off than they are right now.

What are the financial implications of the Chiefs whiffing on Geno Smith? Minimal. What effect does Geno Smith missing have on the Chiefs ability to build a competitive core? The same that the current version of Alex Smith does--one that's not good enough.

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

So, I say again, what's the downside of taking a QB in this situation if you are the Chiefs, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, Browns, Cardinals, Bills, Jets, and several others? Are you going to be unable to not win the Super Bowl the same way you didn't win it last year?

Given the structure of the NFL's TV contracts these teams have little-to-nothing to lose by making these moves. The team isn't going to go under. It will still turn a tremendous profit. And it might turn you into a consistent competitor.

Of course, if the QB misses, the GM will most likely lose his job, and that is why most of the teams will pass on one, because the GM values his job security over the purpose of his job.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:10 PM   #6
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What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.
I think the fact that teams have been desperate to get free agent QB's this year (even now they are trying to get Mallett) instead of moving up to make sure they can get Geno Smith tells us that Geno Smith isn't that great.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:17 PM   #7
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I wouldn't take a guard at 1.10.

The difference between 1.1 and 1.10 is less than the yearly salary our punter is making.

What has the best LT in football gotten the Browns? What did Jake Long get the Dolphins? How many games did the Chiefs win b/c of Will Shields, or the Jets in Faneca's prime?

What does Geno Smith hitting get the Chiefs? In contention for the SB every year. What does Geno Smith missing get the Chiefs? No worse off than they are right now.

What are the financial implications of the Chiefs whiffing on Geno Smith? Minimal. What effect does Geno Smith missing have on the Chiefs ability to build a competitive core? The same that the current version of Alex Smith does--one that's not good enough.

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

So, I say again, what's the downside of taking a QB in this situation if you are the Chiefs, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, Browns, Cardinals, Bills, Jets, and several others? Are you going to be unable to not win the Super Bowl the same way you didn't win it last year?

Given the structure of the NFL's TV contracts these teams have little-to-nothing to lose by making these moves. The team isn't going to go under. It will still turn a tremendous profit. And it might turn you into a consistent competitor.

Of course, if the QB misses, the GM will most likely lose his job, and that is why most of the teams will pass on one, because the GM values his job security over the purpose of his job.
Holy SHIT.

This is the most forceful truth bomb dropped this offseason.
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Old 04-25-2013, 01:58 PM   #8
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I wouldn't take a guard at 1.10.

The difference between 1.1 and 1.10 is less than the yearly salary our punter is making.

What has the best LT in football gotten the Browns? What did Jake Long get the Dolphins? How many games did the Chiefs win b/c of Will Shields, or the Jets in Faneca's prime?

What does Geno Smith hitting get the Chiefs? In contention for the SB every year. What does Geno Smith missing get the Chiefs? No worse off than they are right now.

What are the financial implications of the Chiefs whiffing on Geno Smith? Minimal. What effect does Geno Smith missing have on the Chiefs ability to build a competitive core? The same that the current version of Alex Smith does--one that's not good enough.

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

So, I say again, what's the downside of taking a QB in this situation if you are the Chiefs, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, Browns, Cardinals, Bills, Jets, and several others? Are you going to be unable to not win the Super Bowl the same way you didn't win it last year?

Given the structure of the NFL's TV contracts these teams have little-to-nothing to lose by making these moves. The team isn't going to go under. It will still turn a tremendous profit. And it might turn you into a consistent competitor.

Of course, if the QB misses, the GM will most likely lose his job, and that is why most of the teams will pass on one, because the GM values his job security over the purpose of his job.
You just assume something in this post. That Geno has the best chance of working out. If I had to take Geno or the field as to who will be the best QB, I'll take the field. I know you don't agree, but oh well

I mean it when I say I don't think any team would take a QB if they had the first pick. You say you've got to take a chance. You are, no matter who you pick. Reid took a chance trading for AS. I think they take a lot into consideration before making a pick this high, you have to. Your kind of asking them to draft like Al Davis, take the flashiest player available, whoever wows you. It usually doesn't go so well.

You'd take Geno and that's fine. I'm saying the people who have researched more and have met with these players and have forgotten more about them than anyone on CP will ever know about them, aren't sold on these QBs this high.
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I wouldn't take a guard at 1.10.

The difference between 1.1 and 1.10 is less than the yearly salary our punter is making.

What has the best LT in football gotten the Browns? What did Jake Long get the Dolphins? How many games did the Chiefs win b/c of Will Shields, or the Jets in Faneca's prime?

What does Geno Smith hitting get the Chiefs? In contention for the SB every year. What does Geno Smith missing get the Chiefs? No worse off than they are right now.

What are the financial implications of the Chiefs whiffing on Geno Smith? Minimal. What effect does Geno Smith missing have on the Chiefs ability to build a competitive core? The same that the current version of Alex Smith does--one that's not good enough.

What QB has the best chance of hitting in this draft? Geno Smith.

So, I say again, what's the downside of taking a QB in this situation if you are the Chiefs, Jags, Eagles, Raiders, Browns, Cardinals, Bills, Jets, and several others? Are you going to be unable to not win the Super Bowl the same way you didn't win it last year?

Given the structure of the NFL's TV contracts these teams have little-to-nothing to lose by making these moves. The team isn't going to go under. It will still turn a tremendous profit. And it might turn you into a consistent competitor.

Of course, if the QB misses, the GM will most likely lose his job, and that is why most of the teams will pass on one, because the GM values his job security over the purpose of his job.
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