The most damning evidence against Geno Smith yet.

[Direckshun]

Comes from the teams themselves, does it not?

Here's the top ten draft slots:

1. Kansas City Chiefs -- need a QB
2. Jacksonville Jaguars -- need a QB
3. Oakland Raiders -- need a QB
4. Philadelphia Eagles -- need a QB
5. Detroit Lions
6. Cleveland Browns -- need a QB
7. Arizona Cardinals -- need a QB
8. Buffalo Bills -- need a QB
9. New York Jets -- need a QB
10. Tennessee Titans

Of those 8 teams, you have a legit shot to draft Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, or Ryan Nassib.

What do these teams do?

Chiefs -- Alex Smith, Chase Daniel
Raiders -- Matt Flynn
Eagles -- re-up Michael Vick
Browns -- Jason Campbell
Cardinals -- Carson Palmer
Bills -- Kevin Kolb, Tavaris Jackson
Jets -- David Garrard

Only the Jags have left their hole at QB untouched, but seem to be favoring giving Gabbert one more shot. The Browns are a bit more debatable, as it's clear that Campbell is not a 16-game starter.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Beeker

This is awesome. I actually hope the chefs DO draft him now!!!

It would be cool if they actually did draft him to piss on the other teams who secretly want him, and then traded him to your team for an arm and a leg.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by penbook

Its a buisness. They could care less about Alexs feelings. If they feel like Geno is good enough to be #1 they will draft him.

Thats usually true, but in this particular instance i'm simply not buying it until i see it.

If they were so high on geno, they wouldnt have signed daniel to a solid contract... so they're going to take a guy #1 overall and put him third string behind Daniel, all the while knowing that at the slightest hint of fail from either guy the locals will be chanting GENO! GENO!, creating a MASSIVE distraction in their inaugural year? giving their carefully chosen number one the mega heebie-jeebies his first year here?

Sorry, not buying it in this instance... if i'm wrong then hoorays all around, but it aint hattnin.

[penbrook]

NFL Total Access to view state of the franchise for the KC Chiefs..

[aturnis]

Don't most teams looking to draft a QB usually have a veteran for the young guy to sit behind or to back him up as an insurance policy?

Or could this be evidence that most of these teams don't think he makes it out of the top 3 picks?

[penbrook]

Carson Palmer to Arizona.

Trade is imminent according to Rapapport.

[penbrook]

Dwayne bowe said getting a new qb and new head coach is refreshing..

[penbrook]

Albert Breer reports John Dorsey has narrowed his list down to 4 players and will announce their draft pick 4 days prior to the draft. Dorsey has watched Genos pro day 3 times and likes him a lot according to Albert Breer.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by penbook

Dwayne bowe said getting a new qb and new head coach is refreshing..

Pretty sure I just heard Brier say we had it down to a final 4.

[KCDC]

If this speculation about Geno is true, we are shafted.

We draft Joeckel and have ourselves another boring draft where we do not improve the team. We sign mediocre free agents, give up the farm for a mediocre QB, and use all our available cap space at the same time. I see lots of reasons to get excited this year. /sarcasm

If Geno is that bad, we should take a pass, as much as I hate to say it. But then, PFW has never seemed to like black QBs and I wonder whether there is the typical racism about not being smart, lazy, etc. JeMarcus Russell and Akili Smith ruined things for a generation of young black QBs, Hopefully RGIII will help shatter that perception and we will see honest evaluations.

Still, there is plenty of manipulation going on pre-draft. Those picking behind us have every incentive to poison the well for him and make it look like they would prefer mediocre re-treads.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Frankie

I saw the Mooch white board interview with him. He wasn't very good. ESPN is promoing Chuckie's "QB grill" starting with Geno Smith this week. I didn't catch the time or date.

First showing is thursday on ESPN2 (8:30 pm)

http://www.channelguidemagblog.com/i...camp-schedule/

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Don't most teams looking to draft a QB usually have a veteran for the young guy to sit behind or to back him up as an insurance policy?

Thing is, we have an older, proven vet starter and a slightly younger vet #2... now they're going to take a QB number one?

Thats going to create a massive cluster**** of confusion and expectations, no way they do that.

[chiefsfan1128]

Originally Posted by MatriculatingHank

Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
I was thinking the same thing this morning when
it was confirmed that the Raiders took Flynn.
It's very obvious that the people "in the know"
see something that most here on CP refuse to see.
As much as the Chiefs need a QB, let's face the facts:
Geno Smith is not worthy of a 1.1 pick. If he was,
all this activity would not be taking place this close
to the draft.

What determines worthiness of pick 1.1?
Absolute guaranteed lock? That doesn't exist.
In retrospect is Brady worth 1? Kaepernick?
All depends on a lot of factors. They wouldn't be if you have number 1.1(through trade or any other method), if you have a Drew Brees with other pressing needs. Technically they would be worth 1.1 just not to you.
Kaepernick is still somewhat unproven, as he has only had success for part of a year. But if he was the top prospect, would he have gone where he went. Obviously not, some team would have "reached". Look at how much a teams have given up in the past for the top pdospect at a given position.
The people in the know as pointed out by others, have records that indicate they may not know much.

[WV]

At this point I'll wait until draft day.

[mr. tegu]

Keep the timeline in mind. It was seemingly well known we would be willing to trade down. So a bunch of teams inquired about taking our spot, couldn't make the necessary offer, and are now turning to back up plans.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by KCDC

If this speculation about Geno is true, we are shafted.

We draft Joeckel and have ourselves another boring draft where we do not improve the team. We sign mediocre free agents, give up the farm for a mediocre QB, and use all our available cap space at the same time. I see lots of reasons to get excited this year. /sarcasm

If Geno is that bad, we should take a pass, as much as I hate to say it. But then, PFW has never seemed to like black QBs and I wonder whether there is the typical racism about not being smart, lazy, etc. JeMarcus Russell and Akili Smith ruined things for a generation of young black QBs, Hopefully RGIII will help shatter that perception and we will see honest evaluations.

Still, there is plenty of manipulation going on pre-draft. Those picking behind us have every incentive to poison the well for him and make it look like they would prefer mediocre re-treads.

What position, other than QB, in the draft could improve the team? Who would you like to pick (again excluding QB)?