Late night bullshit: Chiefs roster would-you-rather.

[Direckshun]

Poll forthcoming.

Stand by.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Say it with me, there is no reason to keep three QBs.

If we are starting Murray, the season is lost anyway, I'd rather improve our draft status.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

First of all, as I already stated, I don't know much about weight training

It's OK, neither does Chiefshrink. You're basically having a conversation with a functional reerun.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs are going to cut several guys this year that will be on 53 man rosters throughout the league.

I agree with that. But my point was that he would be on an active roster when you called him a practice squad guy. I would love to have him on the practice squad this year and then get him on the active roster next year. I just don't think that he clears waivers to get there and even if he does, I would bet that he winds up getting plucked from there at some point.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm taking Murray, and this isn't even close. Murray has won the spot but he may have more value in a trade.


I'm taking Reaves, and this also isn't even close. Totally agree. Trade Knile Davis.


I'm keeping both Hammond and Robinson, and dumping Wilson. Wilson can't make this team.


Pughsley. Ok


RNR, because King can't play the nose. Hate losing either one of these guys like Irving to the Cowboys.


DJ Alexander. Keeper. ST stud.


And finally, neither Fleming or Vereen. Flemming shouldn't have been in camp. Total suck.

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[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Say it with me, there is no reason to keep three QBs.

If we are starting Murray, the season is lost anyway, I'd rather improve our draft status.

I don't know that anyone is arguing that we should keep 3 quarterbacks in case of injury. I think most of us see value in using that spot to develop someone. Assuming that Foles leaves for a starting gig next year, we will have no backup with any experience in this offense. That 3rd spot isn't about this year.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I agree with that. But my point was that he would be on an active roster when you called him a practice squad guy. I would love to have him on the practice squad this year and then get him on the active roster next year. I just don't think that he clears waivers to get there and even if he does, I would bet that he winds up getting plucked from there at some point.

Okay, I"ll clarify: He's a Practice Squad guy for the Chiefs, IMO.

Obviously, that doesn't preclude him from being claimed off of waivers or signed to an active roster while on the Chiefs PS but at this point in time, I don't think he's a better option than Poe, Howard, Jones, Bailey, RNR or Nick Williams.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Okay, I"ll clarify: He's a Practice Squad guy for the Chiefs, IMO.

Obviously, that doesn't preclude him from being claimed off of waivers or signed to an active roster while on the Chiefs PS but at this point in time, I don't think he's a better option than Poe, Howard, Jones, Bailey, RNR or Nick Williams.

I agree with that assessment. Having that much talent on the line is a good problem to have. From the Vermeil years until now, how many of those linemen would even make this team, much less start. Our line was so awful for so long. Now it's very deep.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

First of all, as I already stated, I don't know much about weight training, so I'm not trying to argue with you. But one thing that I would like to hear your input on is that much strength training during a rookie season and it's effect on him as the season wears on. Year after year, we see rookies start off looking great and then tail off as they hit the "rookie wall" because they are not accustomed to a 16 game schedule. Wouldn't adding all of that strength training to him on top of everything else make him hit that wall that much sooner and any strength gained be negated due to fatigue?

I will answer later.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

It's OK, neither does Chiefshrink. You're basically having a conversation with a functional reerun.

We can always count on you LW for a substantive response

[BlackHelicopters]

Hookers and blow.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Say it with me, there is no reason to keep three QBs.

If we are starting Murray, the season is lost anyway, I'd rather improve our draft status.

Andy Reid has never gone into a season with only 2 QBs on the roster.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

We can always count on you LW for a substantive response

Tell me Mr. Wizard how in the world a guy (especially a starter) adds 100 lbs. to his bench max during the season.

You're a ****ing joke.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Tell me Mr. Wizard how in the world a guy (especially a starter) adds 100 lbs. to his bench max during the season.

You're a ****ing joke.

Read posts 20 and 35. You are uneducated on weight training

[Mr. Laz]

some of those options just suck

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

First of all, as I already stated, I don't know much about weight training, so I'm not trying to argue with you. But one thing that I would like to hear your input on is that much strength training during a rookie season and it's effect on him as the season wears on. Year after year, we see rookies start off looking great and then tail off as they hit the "rookie wall" because they are not accustomed to a 16 game schedule. Wouldn't adding all of that strength training to him on top of everything else make him hit that wall that much sooner and any strength gained be negated due to fatigue?

Parker is a very smart kid so you won't over tax his brain because he truly gets it and why he is already starting. Therefore that won't fatigue him whatsoever IMO. When playing in the trenches as a lineman whether offense or defense and you are starting as a rookie, strength is not an option for the next offseason.]It is a MUST NOW !! All the great intellect and technique doesn't mean manure if you are getting tossed around like a rag doll. Like I said Parker is smart and a great technician but his weaknesses are strength,agility and quickness getting into space which can be improved. Look at what events he avoided at the combine. Bench press,3 cone drill and 20 yd shuttle. Why? Especially when he ran the 40.

Every rookie coming in has their specific challenges whether it's physical,mental,emotional or all three. Tailing off could be any one of the 3 or all 3. Who knows? Only the coaches do at that point if they tail off what seems to be their specific issue/issues and then they deal with it. First off most coming into the NFL most rookies although told ahead of time don't realize just how mentally taxing the game can be and will be played from not only a very physical perspective but even more so from an intellectual perspective on every snap with all the reads and audibles on both sides of the ball and the right adjustments that must be made in a split fraction of a second. Quite frankly this will be easy for Parker because usually it is the intellectually taxing volume and techniques that take time for most and why to your point the tail off occurs but Parker is already there on those aspects. if Parker is committed to improving his strength which I think he will be you will be seeing less of him being thrown around as the season progresses and by December he will hold his own. Will he reach his full weight training ceiling by Dec.? Probably not but he will have made big advances to the point of not being anybody's rag doll anymore. If all he has to do is just improve his strength,quickness and agility this will be easy for him because it is usually the large volume of info that fatigues most players and why you see them tail off.