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Austin, if you're going to accuse people of not accepting overwhelming facts then please don't commit the same fallacy.
TechCrunch has run multiple articles on this subject and concluded that h264 accounts for roughly 66% of the video on the web. That's a hell of a lot. So, when you say the Touch devices don't get most of the video, you would be wrong. Plus, if you're going to accuse people of assuming out comes how bout not assuming WebM is going to be standard. Also, there is no fight between h264 and HTML5, which you posted here: Quote:
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Just because a video is h.264 encoded DOES NOT mean it can be accessed by an ipad... now, if it is h.264 encoded AND the site has implemented html5 .. then yes... YouTube started down this path but has switched gears to webM... so currently, SOME video on youtube are supported but that number will onyl DECREASE as time goes on. Yes HTML5 could support both h.264 and WebM... but that is not likely to happen.. the industry wants to settle on a SINGLE standard... currently there is NO standard for html5 video... PERIOD. The big boys are pushing for WebM and will probably get it. Maybe it isn't a question of accepting facts... maybe it's that you guys just don't understand them. ![]() |
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If we are doing NO conjecture then the ipad is pretty useless based on what it does RIGHT NOW. (at least to me it is, if it works for you so be it) |
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As I said, if YOU want to jump thru Apple's hoops.. go for it. I'd rather have a device that works FOR me. Watch the Google I/O keynotes... pretty clear how silly they made Apple look. |
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Lets look at just one site, Hulu... their video is h.264 encoded... all of it. How much is available on an ipad... yep .. NONE OF IT. As stated, just because it's h.264 does NOT mean it is available through html5. Now on to YouTube, yes they support both.. kind of... they DID support h.264 and all the old videos in that format will probably remain for now... but all NEW video at 720p or higher will be WebM And no, everyone wants ONE standard for video, it's cheaper and easier to only have to encode a file ONCE. Since Opera, Mozilla and others won't support h.264 but everyone (except Safari) WILL support WebM... WebM will likely replace h.264 almost completely with 24 months. (so says the CEO of BrightCove) |
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Fact: The industry is moving towards WebM because it performs as well, has a smaller footprint and is FREE. All the major mobile hardware manufacturers are on board and even Intel has said they are willing to optimize for it as it becomes popular. It's popularity is assured by the fact that YouTube is migrating to it. |
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We just got a dozen or so of these for where I work, to test them out.
Exactly as I thought they were. Glorified ebook reader and digital picture frame. iBooks is a joke compared to the Kindle app. The only thing this has going for it is that it's in color, otherwise, its a total PoS, and completely worthless. And yes, we got the 3G version too. |
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I use my touch for music and podcasts. damn thing is to damned small really to use to browse the internet. I am sure eventually they will get some kind of video thing going on. Apple sooner or later will realize this. they kind of have to imo. IF they dont oh well, i still am listening to my music on their product. I remember when i was a kid and i used to always have my walk man with me. had to have extra tapes, and an extra set of batteries as well, when they first came out the damned walkmans were so ****ing big. lol |
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Apple dropped the ball with Flash and they'll soon discover that. I hate Flash's buggy, resource hog nature as much as anyone... but the fact is, people USE Flash. The web is full of useful flash apps and video... As I said before, if it's a performance issue, hell, let's all use Lynx.. it's way faster than Safari and doesn't bog you down with all those pesky picture files! |
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But jiminy you say people have a hard on for Apple whereas you have a hard-on for anything open source, even if it was just announced and has almost zero market share. (Politically, it's like the stance that the free market will fix everything.) Quote:
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I still don't see the huge draw for flash.
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