The criminalization of our children continues

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Bump

ya but it's a ****ing science project!

ruin a young persons life over that. That shit is ****ed up. This isn't some explosion at school, its a ****ing science project that had a little "pop" sound.

If this was some sinister thing she was doing intentionally to scare people, then yes, I'd agree. But that's not the case.

Sure as hell shouldn't involve the authorities. I hope you are just trolling.

So, you're taking this line from the alternet.org story: "A Florida teen with an exemplary record is facing federal charges after conducting what a classmate calls “a science project gone bad.”"

You're taking that line and assuming that this was some sort of assigned science project? For real? Are the kids smoking in the bathrooms just doing "science project" as well?

So, the standard on school explosions should be--as long as it is pretty small, it's ok? And untrained kids should be able to know exactly what will happen when they mix their chemicals, right?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

So, you're taking this line from the alternet.org story: "A Florida teen with an exemplary record is facing federal charges after conducting what a classmate calls “a science project gone bad.”"

You're taking that line and assuming that this was some sort of assigned science project? For real? Are the kids smoking in the bathrooms just doing "science project" as well?

So, the standard on school explosions should be--as long as it is pretty small, it's ok? And untrained kids should be able to know exactly what will happen when they mix their chemicals, right?

There's nothing in the story that justifies the kid's punishment. I feel sorry for the kids today. I'm not even that old, yet most of the shit my group of friends and I were doing when we were kids would either be criminal or at least seriously frowned upon today.

The police state is ramping up, and it's partly because of the incredibly ****ing stupid and lazy pricks who defend horrible ideas like "no tolerance" rules and overreactive policing.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

There's nothing in the story that justifies the kid's punishment. I feel sorry for the kids today. I'm not even that old, yet most of the shit my group of friends and I were doing when we were kids would either be criminal or at least seriously frowned upon today.

The police state is ramping up, and it's partly because of the incredibly ****ing stupid and lazy pricks who defend horrible ideas like "no tolerance" rules and overreactive policing.

What the police do is seperate from what the school does. Due to lack of details, I have no idea if police action is warranted. It doesn't seem like there was there was intent to hurt anyone.

However, I don't think a school can just sit there and ignore a kid who is trying to create a small explosion. Again, this isn't an image of a gun or an inappropriate t-shirt. I don't see how someone can argue for a standard that says it is ok for kids to even goof around with chemicals for the purpose of causing an explosion. You want to allow your kids at home to do that, I guess it is up to the parent. I'd say a school has to be a bit more strict.

[AussieChiefsFan]

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[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

What the police do is seperate from what the school does. Due to lack of details, I have no idea if police action is warranted. It doesn't seem like there was there was intent to hurt anyone.

However, I don't think a school can just sit there and ignore a kid who is trying to create a small explosion. Again, this isn't an image of a gun or an inappropriate t-shirt. I don't see how someone can argue for a standard that says it is ok for kids to even goof around with chemicals for the purpose of causing an explosion. You want to allow your kids at home to do that, I guess it is up to the parent. I'd say a school has to be a bit more strict.

There's not sufficient justification for the punishment in the story, yet you're going zero tolerance anyway. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Schools aren't keeping the makings of chemical warheads out for easy access and, if they are, the school is the problem. There's not sufficient justification for the punishment in the story.

You can create an explosion from common stuff you probably have right now in your garage or under your sink. For a kid to try that stuff at school is beyond stupid and potentially, quite dangerous. It would be pretty stupid of the school to simply shrug it off.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

You can create an explosion from common stuff you probably have right now in your garage or under your sink. For a kid to try that stuff at school is beyond stupid and potentially, quite dangerous. It would be pretty stupid of the school to simply shrug it off.

It would. But the charges just seem ridiculous.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

It would. But the charges just seem ridiculous.

That's up to the police. The prosecutor can sort out if the charges are warranted. Maybe they aren't. I'm talking about the school.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

You can create an explosion from common stuff you probably have right now in your garage or under your sink. For a kid to try that stuff at school is beyond stupid and potentially, quite dangerous. It would be pretty stupid of the school to simply shrug it off.

We created a small explosion in school when I was a kid, and we shattered a beaker in the process. Every one of us survived the experience, nobody got punished and the police were never called in. We were told to strictly follow the teacher's instructions from then on, and that was it.

I grant you that the students from the class next door did come running in to see what had happened, but none of them were injured or killed either.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

There's not sufficient justification for the punishment in the story, yet you're going zero tolerance anyway. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

Yes. Zero tolerance for kids going off on their own to try to create explosions at school.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Yes. Zero tolerance for kids going off on their own to try to create explosions at school.

Like I said, you're part of the problem.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

So, you're taking this line from the alternet.org story: "A Florida teen with an exemplary record is facing federal charges after conducting what a classmate calls “a science project gone bad.”"

You're taking that line and assuming that this was some sort of assigned science project? For real? Are the kids smoking in the bathrooms just doing "science project" as well?

So, the standard on school explosions should be--as long as it is pretty small, it's ok? And untrained kids should be able to know exactly what will happen when they mix their chemicals, right?

well that's the information I have. Future information can always change opinions.

But if it is the case, like the article says, then it's ****ing wrong. If the article is bullshit, I will never look at another one of their news articles.