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Old 04-06-2013, 11:39 PM   #1
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The Alex Smith trade contradicts the words out of Dorsey's mouth. That trade negates any hope you ever had. Accept it and despair.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:45 PM   #2
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The Alex Smith trade contradicts the words out of Dorsey's mouth. That trade negates any hope you ever had. Accept it and despair.
Who says Geno would be starting. You sit him and groom him until you feel like Geno is ready.

He did it with Rodgers already. Whats to say he wont do the same to Geno.
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Old 04-06-2013, 11:39 PM   #3
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I agree. I think Rodgers play from the beginning of that playoff run to the end of the 15-1 regular season the next year is literally the best any QB has played the last 25 years or so, maybe longer. I said that multiple times, and I really mean that. Just unstoppable... which is why some of the comments on here about how Wilson and Kaepernick, etc, etc are HOF'ers playing better than anyone are crazy. They haven't even provided the best QB play of this decade to this point.

And why I think comparing any QB to Aaron Rodgers is a bad idea.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:24 AM   #4
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I agree. I think Rodgers play from the beginning of that playoff run to the end of the 15-1 regular season the next year is literally the best any QB has played the last 25 years or so, maybe longer. I said that multiple times, and I really mean that. Just unstoppable... which is why some of the comments on here about how Wilson and Kaepernick, etc, etc are HOF'ers playing better than anyone are crazy. They haven't even provided the best QB play of this decade to this point.

And why I think comparing any QB to Aaron Rodgers is a bad idea.
Comparing one player to another is not suggesting that player is the same player, or that he will ever play to the level that the player has achieved.

But you can watch a player and see similarities in their game.

It's stupid to dismiss comparisons.

I can watch Reggie Bush even today and see the valid comparison of his style to Gale Sayers.

Anyone that would suggest that comparison is even remotely suggesting their production is similar is a moron that can't draw a distinction.
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:35 AM   #5
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Comparing one player to another is not suggesting that player is the same player, or that he will ever play to the level that the player has achieved.

But you can watch a player and see similarities in their game.

It's stupid to dismiss comparisons.

I can watch Reggie Bush even today and see the valid comparison of his style to Gale Sayers.

Anyone that would suggest that comparison is even remotely suggesting their production is similar is a moron that can't draw a distinction.
Well you can always make comparisons. But that doesn't mean they are a good idea. Matt Cassel's release when he was playing well was very similar to John Elway. He didn't have the arm strength or accuracy, but the physical mechanics of their throwing motion were very similar.

As far as Rodgers though... I don't think there's anyone out there like him. Stafford probably. The way the ball comes out of his hand, it's amazing. It is kind of that Elway-like zip to rip it down the field. Flacco probably has a bigger arm... but he throws a lot of rainbows.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:47 AM   #6
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:57 AM   #7
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Excellent piece.

I still disagree, however.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:17 AM   #8
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Excellent piece.

I still disagree, however.
explain please.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #9
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explain please.
You have to be able to counter whatever a defense brings, and the best defenses always have a guy of amazing athleticism and strength, that demands you need to be able to neutralize that power.

I'm of the opinion and the tackle positions are incredibly important. I think the Chiefs should have kept both Albert and Winston.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:21 AM   #10
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You have to be able to counter whatever a defense brings, and the best defenses always have a guy of amazing athleticism and strength, that demands you need to be able to neutralize that power.

I'm of the opinion and the tackle positions are incredibly important. I think the Chiefs should have kept both Albert and Winston.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:27 AM   #11
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You have to be able to counter whatever a defense brings, and the best defenses always have a guy of amazing athleticism and strength, that demands you need to be able to neutralize that power.

I'm of the opinion and the tackle positions are incredibly important. I think the Chiefs should have kept both Albert and Winston.
I do also, but I don't think either player has the talent of Joeckel/Fisher and I am in the group saying LT is no longer an elite position for NFL teams.

Albert has a lot of technique to learn and I believe he can learn to become a solid LT, but he burned bridges imo.

So, moving forward, I would look at Kyle Long, Dave Quessenberry or Jordan Mills -- guys that might be available in the top of the 3rd rnd and go ahead and invest in Geno Smith up top for the future.
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Old 04-07-2013, 08:53 AM   #12
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You have to be able to counter whatever a defense brings, and the best defenses always have a guy of amazing athleticism and strength, that demands you need to be able to neutralize that power.

I'm of the opinion and the tackle positions are incredibly important. I think the Chiefs should have kept both Albert and Winston.
IMO, if Don Stephenson stayed in school for his senior season, he would be in the conversation for the first offensive tackle being selected this year. The guy is extremely athletic, has excellent feet and is prototype in terms of size.

Combine numbers for Big Don:

6'6"
312 lbs.
34 1/2" arms

40 yard: 4.94
Vertical: 35.5"
Broad: 114"

Those are absolutely ridiculous speed/burst numbers for a guy of that size.

The guy only needed another year of weight room time to build his strength up to the frame, which he's done with the Chiefs.

Personally, I thought it was a pick of the same level of Jamaal Charles when he came out early and we got him with a third. I said it when we drafted him, that if he (Charles) stayed in school, he would have had a legit shot at the Heisman and it was the steal of the draft. In fact, this (Stephenson) is the guy that Pissholi is going to hang his hat on for future jobs IMO. (Along with Houston.)

Stephenson is going to blow up this year. Book it.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:13 AM   #13
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Eh, we are still taking a LT #1 overall...
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Both Super Bowl teams had 1st round starting LTs. Manning had a first round LT. The Patriots have a 2nd round and 1st rounder as their starting tackles. Seattle has Okung at tackle.

I'm not advocating taking Joeckel or Fisher, but this article while having some good points isn't being completely honest. Using Long and Thomas as examples is deceiving. They both have never had a good or even average QB playing behind them. And then using Matt Ryan as the example of a QB being successful in the playoffs without an upper echelon LT is hilarious. The one playoff win Matt Ryan whose team has repeatedly been upset in the playoffs?! Typical ESPN lazy reporting.
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