Royals Bye bye Gordon - Page 8

FlaChief58 · 11-04-2015, 06:32 PM

610 is reporting that Alex Gordon has declined his 2016 option and is a free agent

Kidd Lex · 11-05-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

HA HA,thanks for the laugh!

Talking about over paying and if they were so stupid to do this, this would open up a major can of worms for players across the board. Every player will use that contract as a measuring stick to position their own contract.

I would be surprised if Gordon gets over 75 mil.

I think the floor is 4/75, however there are other similar players on the market that could effect how this plays out. I'd hate to see the Royals sign him for even 4/80 - if we cant do a 3 year contract (which we most likely can't) we should move on.

Love Gordon - was there for his first at bat against the Red Sox and have loved his leadership but baseball is a business. Teams like ours can't miss on 4 year bloated contracts to pay for a defensive tooled player. The money makes the inefficiency we are tying to exploit a losing proposition.

duncan_idaho · 11-05-2015, 09:22 AM

Gordon is not signing anywhere for a three year deal unless he's making an obscene annual average.

He's going to get four years for sure, and likely five. Maybe even six.

58-4ever · 11-05-2015, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Had someone e-mail me asking if I could believe Gordon "rejected the Royals offer" and asked if I was pissed he is leaving the Royals.
People don't know WTF they are talking about.

The most ridiculous part of this is you communicating through email...

Kidd Lex · 11-05-2015, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Gordon is not signing anywhere for a three year deal unless he's making an obscene annual average.

He's going to get four years for sure, and likely five. Maybe even six.

You agree we should stay away from any contract >=4/80?

NJChiefsFan · 11-05-2015, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

nope, that's going to be Hosmer

He grew up a Yankme fan and his agent is that POS Scott Boras.

Not sure how that would work with Bird looking like a potential star this year. I guess they could put Bird at DH, but he's pretty young for that. Hosmer certainly is a much better defender.

oldman · 11-05-2015, 10:42 AM

I could support 4/80. Giving anything more than 3 years to Zobrist would be counterproductive due to his age IMO.

**alnorth** · 11-05-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I think he is FOS but heard from a guy that does have ties to GMDM that Cubs offered 5/120 Royals offered 5/85. I just cant see those dollars but who knows.

I don't think teams are even allowed to talk to Gordon or his agent until Friday.

ChiefsCountry · 11-05-2015, 11:18 AM

You have 3 salaries to compare with Gordon. I think 18.5 would be right for him, but you have to look at Shin-Soo Choo, Jayson Werth, and Hunter Pence for the comparisons.

Eleazar · 11-05-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

I don't think teams are even allowed to talk to Gordon or his agent until Friday.

Correct. That would violate the CBA.

duncan_idaho · 11-05-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The GMDM Hypothesis

You agree we should stay away from any contract >=4/80?

No.

I would go 5/100 for him if that's what it took.

Mr. Laz · 11-05-2015, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The sad part, IMO, is that Royals are owned by a guy with more than $2 billion dollars, yet the idea of paying market value for homegrown players is always in question.

We will find out. This team just won a championship so there isn't any reason not to raise the payroll higher than it's ever been. The attendance and t.v. numbers are up higher than even their owner expected.

If he doesn't pay now, he won't ever do it.

chiefqueen · 11-05-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

Free agency has doomed jersey sales (from me at least).

I won't buy another one from an active player.

Finally broke down and bought a Charles jersey this year. We all saw how that turned out.

Charchandwick West will send you a thank you card from Hawaii in late January.

duncan_idaho · 11-05-2015, 01:06 PM

Have seen/read that Glass is saying they aren't content with "just a good season" next year. They're going to make a push to stay on top.

For whatever sins he had early in his ownership, he has stepped up to the plate with the needed money every time he has been asked over the past decade, since Dayton Moore became the GM.

He'll give Dayton what he needs to keep the team in position to win the Central and make noise in the playoffs.

**ExtremeChief** · 11-05-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Correct. That would violate the CBA.

I thought the royals could talk to him exclusively until Friday and then he becomes unrestricted?

ChiliConCarnage · 11-05-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

We will find out. This team just won a championship so there isn't any reason not to raise the payroll higher than it's ever been. The attendance and t.v. numbers are up higher than even their owner expected.

If he doesn't pay now, he won't ever do it.

The Royals are the 29th? largest market in MLB and we started the year at 16th in salary and added Cueto, Zobrist, etc. I doubt we can go much higher.
The TV numbers don't help because we can't renegotiate our shitty deal.

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11-05-2015, 01:06 PM	#118
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1720308	Have seen/read that Glass is saying they aren't content with "just a good season" next year. They're going to make a push to stay on top. For whatever sins he had early in his ownership, he has stepped up to the plate with the needed money every time he has been asked over the past decade, since Dayton Moore became the GM. He'll give Dayton what he needs to keep the team in position to win the Central and make noise in the playoffs. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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