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Old 11-14-2012, 12:24 AM   #1
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So how has anything that Haley brought to this team carried over?

Or are you saying that Haley actually has to be around for the Chiefs to play better?

They sucked last year, plain and simple, when Haley was around. They sucked in 2009 when Haley was around. They were somewhat better in 2010, when Weis and Crennell arrived, but that quickly wore off.

Todd Haley, IMO, doesn't deserve any praise, whatsoever.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:27 AM   #2
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So how has anything that Haley brought to this team carried over?

Or are you saying that Haley actually has to be around for the Chiefs to play better?

They sucked last year, plain and simple, when Haley was around. They sucked in 2009 when Haley was around. They were somewhat better in 2010, when Weis and Crennell arrived, but that quickly wore off.

Todd Haley, IMO, doesn't deserve any praise, whatsoever.
Bullshit.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:29 AM   #3
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Bullshit.
Exactly.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:33 AM   #4
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Exactly.
You have failed to prove otherwise.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:34 AM   #5
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Bullshit.
Okay, you're right: Haley was a GREAT strength and conditioning coach.

He sucked at everything else, especially on Sundays.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:40 AM   #6
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Okay, you're right: Haley was a GREAT strength and conditioning coach.

He sucked at everything else, especially on Sundays.
Accountability.

Haley won 5 games before he was fired with less than Romeo has right now, and that was because he held players accountable.

He wasn't a good game day coach (yet), and his playcalling was questionable, but the team gave effort because he demanded it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:44 AM   #7
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Accountability.

Haley won 5 games before he was fired with less than Romeo has right now, and that was because he held players accountable.

He wasn't a good game day coach (yet), and his playcalling was questionable, but the team gave effort because he demanded it.
I though they looked like complete and utter dogshit in 2011.

Until he was fired.

The Chiefs looked like a different team against the Packers, Broncos and Raiders than they did when Haley was the head coach.

And yes, unfortunately, that led to Crennel's hiring.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:49 AM   #8
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I though they looked like complete and utter dogshit in 2011.

Until he was fired.

The Chiefs looked like a different team against the Packers, Broncos and Raiders than they did when Haley was the head coach.

And yes, unfortunately, that led to Crennel's hiring.
The offense looked like shit with Haley, but then Haley was working with Cassel and Palko, and Crennel worked with Orton.

But the team played harder for Haley than they are for Crennel.

They might not have liked him, but they didn't quit on him.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:49 AM   #9
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I though they looked like complete and utter dogshit in 2011.

Until he was fired.

The Chiefs looked like a different team against the Packers, Broncos and Raiders than they did when Haley was the head coach.

And yes, unfortunately, that led to Crennel's hiring.
Kyle Orton = glass of water.

Should I post the quotes of Tamba Hali and other players and coaches talking about Kyle Orton after those games?

They straight up threw Cassel under the bus.

"Its been nice to have a quarterback back there that can extend drives and make teams respect our passing game. Its been a long time since weve had that and it helps our defense a lot" -Tamba Hali.

Shit, Romeo even said that he owes his head coaching job to Kyle Orton.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:49 AM   #10
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Bullshit.
We won 2 of 3 last year as a response to the Haley-hate.

That alone fueled this team to care.

The fail that followed was due to losing talent, adding questionable (at best) talent, and following up fail at coach with fail at coach...
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We won 2 of 3 last year as a response to the Haley-hate.

That alone fueled this team to care.

The fail that followed was due to losing talent, adding questionable (at best) talent, and following up fail at coach with fail at coach...
They won 2 out of 3 because of a more competent QB.

Anyone that thinks that had anything to do with Crennel is drinking the Kool aid.
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They won 2 out of 3 because of a more competent QB.

Anyone that thinks that had anything to do with Crennel is drinking the Kool aid.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:07 AM   #13
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They won 2 out of 3 because of a more competent QB.

Anyone that thinks that had anything to do with Crennel is drinking the Kool aid.
But if Haley was solely responsible for Cassel's breakout year in 2010, what went wrong in 2011?

If he was so great and commanded so much respect, why did the defense give up 41 and 45 points to start the season?

I'm not trying to hammer you personally but Todd Haley was a ****ing joke.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:29 AM   #14
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But if Haley was solely responsible for Cassel's breakout year in 2010, what went wrong in 2011?

If he was so great and commanded so much respect, why did the defense give up 41 and 45 points to start the season?

I'm not trying to hammer you personally but Todd Haley was a ****ing joke.
Because Crennel is a joke and a fraud of a HC and for sure over ****ing rated as a DC...

People who defended Crennels defense or him being the HC can go Dane themselves with a pogo stick.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:54 AM   #15
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We won 2 of 3 last year as a response to the Haley-hate.

That alone fueled this team to care.

The fail that followed was due to losing talent, adding questionable (at best) talent, and following up fail at coach with fail at coach...
The team got a shot of energy from having a quarterback under center that could play the position effectively and because they didnt have to worry about big bad Haley.

Not because Romeo was some miracle worker.

Even Romeo said that more than once.

FTR, I think that type of new found energy will be realized again if we draft a kid like Geno Smith or Matt Barkley...both are better than Kyle Orton.
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